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CaRef5 Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:48am

Age and Experience
 
OK so this thread is simple...
Post your age and how long you've been officiating for. And if you want to "toot your own horn" you could post the level at which you officiate.

Il go first.

I'm 19, been officiating basketball for 4 years (since I was 15) and now I'm about to start my first year at the high school level.

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 24, 2008 05:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaRef5
OK so this thread is simple...
Post your age and how long you've been officiating for. And if you want to "toot your own horn" you could post the level at which you officiate.

Il go first.

I'm 19, been officiating basketball for 4 years (since I was 15) and now I'm about to start my first year at the high school level.

Sigh.......:rolleyes:

My name is Damien and I'm 14. I've been active at all levels since I was born. I know where you live.

BktBallRef Tue Jun 24, 2008 06:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaRef5
OK so this thread is simple...
Post your age and how long you've been officiating for. And if you want to "toot your own horn" you could post the level at which you officiate.

That's kind of personal, isn't it? :confused:

Dan_ref Tue Jun 24, 2008 07:03am

Maybe we can make it simpler.

What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color?

Adam Tue Jun 24, 2008 07:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Maybe we can make it simpler.

What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color?

1. Alexander
2. World Domination
3. Mauve

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 24, 2008 07:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
1)What is your name?
2)What is your quest?
3)What is your favorite color?

1)Damien
2)M&M
3) blood red

Scrapper1 Tue Jun 24, 2008 07:25am

Welcome to the forum, CaRef. Not sure why people don't want to answer you, but I will. I'm 40(ish), been reffing for 15 years, and I do some D2/D3 college ball.

You have a big advantage over a lot of us in that you started very young. I hope your first HS season is exciting. Make sure you keep checking in here and let us know how it's going.

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 24, 2008 07:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I'm 40(ish), been reffing for 15 years, and I do some D2/D3 college ball.

And how do we know that?

You could be a 73 year old, four foot two, 713 pound transexual canoe guide with two teeth that likes to play the banjo and hum the theme from <b>Deliverance</b> for all we know.

Or......we can have a poll.

Scrapper1 Tue Jun 24, 2008 07:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
You could be a 73 year old, four foot two, 713 pound transexual canoe guide with two teeth that likes to play the banjo and hum the theme from <b>Deliverance</b> for all we know.

Obviously, I'm not, or my name would be Jurassic Referee! :eek: :p

Dan_ref Tue Jun 24, 2008 07:51am

After the end of 1 inning the score is Scrappy 1, JR nothing.

We'll return after these messages.

JugglingReferee Tue Jun 24, 2008 08:11am

JR gets pwned by Scrappy. :D

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 24, 2008 09:06am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Obviously, I'm not, or my name would be Jurassic Referee!

Grumble, grumble, grumble.....

I'm going to my room.

Adam Tue Jun 24, 2008 09:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And how do we know that?

You could be a 73 year old, four foot two, 713 pound transexual canoe guide with two teeth that likes to play the banjo and hum the theme from <b>Deliverance</b> for all we know.

Or......we can have a poll.

713 lb canoe guide? I think I'll walk.

Larks Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
JR gets pwned by Scrappy. :D

pwned.....on the official forum - WOW - thats some serious geek speak....

For those wondering....

Pwn (/poʊn/, /puːn/, /pəʔˈoʊn/, /pɔːn/, /piˈoʊn/, /pwəʔˈn̩/) is a leetspeak slang term, derived from the word "own",[1][2][3] that implies domination or humiliation of a rival, used primarily in the Internet gaming culture to taunt an opponent who has just been soundly defeated. Past tense is sometimes spelled pwnt (pronounced with a t sound), pwned, pwnd, pwn3d, or powned (with the standard d sound). Examples include "pwnage" or "you just got pwned".


Next thing you know we'll be doing "First"

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:18am

I didn't know that, Larks.

Somehow, after reading that, I now feel....whole.

Or maybe I just wet myself again......

Dan_ref Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:32am

First!

Adam Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I didn't know that, Larks.

Somehow, after reading that, I now feel....whole.

Or maybe I just wet myself again......

After a while, I hear it's hard to tell the difference.

Larks Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Or maybe I just wet myself again......

self pwnage

bob jenkins Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larks
self pwnage

u cud g0 bl1nd

Camron Rust Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
u cud g0 bl1nd

ns

Jurassic Referee Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
First!

Phfffbt.

btaylor64 Tue Jun 24, 2008 02:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaRef5
OK so this thread is simple...
Post your age and how long you've been officiating for. And if you want to "toot your own horn" you could post the level at which you officiate.

Il go first.

I'm 19, been officiating basketball for 4 years (since I was 15) and now I'm about to start my first year at the high school level.

CaRef5,

I'm young like yourself. I'm 22 and officiate all levels except NAIA and D3. the guys make a good point about ppl making up whatever they want to and so some ppl might lie to u about what they ref. but just take it for what it is, the internet, and for the most part you can take ppl on here at their word if they ever decide to take your thread seriously and post their exp. which I doubt will happen. Good luck to you in your officiating endeavors.

RookieDude Tue Jun 24, 2008 02:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larks
pwned.....on the official forum - WOW - thats some serious geek speak....

For those wondering....

Pwn (/poʊn/, /puːn/, /pəʔˈoʊn/, /pɔːn/, /piˈoʊn/, /pwəʔˈn̩/) is a leetspeak slang term, derived from the word "own",[1][2][3] that implies domination or humiliation of a rival, used primarily in the Internet gaming culture to taunt an opponent who has just been soundly defeated. Past tense is sometimes spelled pwnt (pronounced with a t sound), pwned, pwnd, pwn3d, or powned (with the standard d sound). Examples include "pwnage" or "you just got pwned".


Next thing you know we'll be doing "First"

Gee...I just figured JR "fatfingered" the p instead of the o on his keyboard.:confused:

Nevadaref Tue Jun 24, 2008 02:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64
I'm 22 and officiate all levels except NAIA and D3.

:rolleyes:

Really??? You are saying that you work D1, NBA, D-league, D2, and international (FIBA) ball, and sixth grade girls? :confused:

Adam Tue Jun 24, 2008 03:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
:rolleyes:

Really??? You are saying that you work D1, NBA, D-league, D2, and international (FIBA) ball, and sixth grade girls? :confused:

Must be in southern California.

eyezen Tue Jun 24, 2008 03:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larks
self pwnage

Please, think of the kittens.

Adam Tue Jun 24, 2008 03:12pm

Exhibit A:
Quote:

Originally Posted by eyezen
Please, think of the kittens.

There are some inside jokes about which I'd rather remain ignorant.

Larks Tue Jun 24, 2008 03:55pm

Deer Pwnage

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture...erek/pwned.jpg

Raymond Tue Jun 24, 2008 04:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
:rolleyes:

Really??? You are saying that you work D1, NBA, D-league, D2, and international (FIBA) ball, and sixth grade girls? :confused:

If you check various sources you will find his name in box scores.

Camron Rust Tue Jun 24, 2008 04:38pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
If you check various sources you will find his name in box scores.

I didn't think they published box scores for the 4' and under leagues? :eek:

Y2Koach Tue Jun 24, 2008 04:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust
I didn't think they published box scores for the 4' and under leagues? :eek:

isn't the 4" and under league where the guys have to self-pwn?

Regardless of what type of league it is, call it both ways (metric?)

Camron Rust Tue Jun 24, 2008 04:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64
CaRef5,

I'm young like yourself. I'm 22 and officiate all levels except NAIA and D3. the guys make a good point about ppl making up whatever they want to and so some ppl might lie to u about what they ref. but just take it for what it is, the internet, and for the most part you can take ppl on here at their word if they ever decide to take your thread seriously and post their exp. which I doubt will happen. Good luck to you in your officiating endeavors.


Exactly. Take the term "Varsity", for example. There are people who say they work "Varsity" when, in reality, the have never worked an official HS "Varsity" game. The term is used very loosely....to refer to games with Varsity-aged players, rec games with players who have played on a "Varsity" teams, or even games that some rec. leagues call "Varsity" with no connection whatsoever with what most people consider to be "Varsity".

How do you know what a person has really worked? Hard to tell. However, when someone claims to have worked high level games and tends to throw around that info, chances are that they're being liberal with the description...worked a rec. league or summer game with a couple high-level players. Most people who really work legitimate college games don't go around advertising it all the time.

CaRef5 Wed Jun 25, 2008 02:57am

OK so i started this thread HOPING some "officials" on this website could take it a bit seriously... obviously that didnt happen especially with the first few replies that were posted....

Anywho, for those who tried to take it seriously... thanks.

BktBallRef Wed Jun 25, 2008 06:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And how do we know that?

You could be a 73 year old, four foot two, 713 pound transexual canoe guide with two teeth that likes to play the banjo and hum the theme from Deliverance for all we know.

At least you got part of it right, JR. :cool:

BktBallRef Wed Jun 25, 2008 06:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaRef5
OK so i started this thread HOPING some "officials" on this website could take it a bit seriously... obviously that didnt happen especially with the first few replies that were posted....

Anywho, for those who tried to take it seriously... thanks.

Don't worry about how old people are. That goes for here and for life. It's not important.

It also makes no matter what level you officiate. There are top, bottom and average officials at all levels.

Read the forum regularly. You'll soon know who you can learn from and who's full of crap. And don't think for one minute that you can dictate who others post. That's not up to you.

Good luck and welcome!

Jurassic Referee Wed Jun 25, 2008 06:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaRef5
Anywho, for those who tried to take it seriously... thanks.

Just for the record, I took it as seriously as it deserved to be taken.

Adam Wed Jun 25, 2008 07:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Just for the record, I took it as seriously as it deserved to be taken.

Keep on hating.

Dan_ref Wed Jun 25, 2008 07:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Keep on hating.

Don't hate the player...

Raymond Wed Jun 25, 2008 08:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust
I didn't think they published box scores for the 4' and under leagues? :eek:

Just for the record I met btaylor64 at camp a couple years ago when he was about 20 years old. He is a nice kid and he does work games that can easily be looked up on the internet. I also believe he never worked varsity HS ball. Not everyone follows the same path to success.

Coltdoggs Wed Jun 25, 2008 08:41am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
713 lb canoe guide? I think I'll walk.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

That was great Snags! :p

btaylor64 Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
:rolleyes:

Really??? You are saying that you work D1, NBA, D-league, D2, and international (FIBA) ball, and sixth grade girls? :confused:

Well, first of all if you work for the NBA, you more often than not work in either the NBA or the NBA D-League. Only guys who are b/w their 1-4 yr. in the NBA even work in the NBA D-League as well so you can strike the NBA from that list.

Since I live in the U.S. it would be highly unlikely that I would work FIBA, so you can scratch that one as well. Everything else seems to be right on.;)

Jurassic Referee Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64
Since I live in the U.S. it would be highly unlikely that I would work FIBA, so you can scratch that one as well.

Why?:confused:

Quite a few U.S. D1 and NBA oficials have also obtained a FIBA rating and have worked FIBA tournaments over the years. To do so, you have to meet FIBA requirements re: camp evaluation, exams passed, age restrictions, etc.
It ain't that easy in the larger countries to obtain a FIBA rating and be qualified for international games.

Nevadaref Wed Jun 25, 2008 03:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64
Well, first of all if you work for the NBA, you more often than not work in either the NBA or the NBA D-League. Only guys who are b/w their 1-4 yr. in the NBA even work in the NBA D-League as well so you can strike the NBA from that list.

You are not fully accurate. There are plenty of officials who work the D-League, but do not yet work in the NBA. Where you are correct is that once an official is hired at the NBA level, he works a split schedule in both the D-League and the NBA for his first four years.

btaylor64 Wed Jun 25, 2008 04:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
You are not fully accurate. There are plenty of officials who work the D-League, but do not yet work in the NBA. Where you are correct is that once an official is hired at the NBA level, he works a split schedule in both the D-League and the NBA for his first four years.

I agree with you completely with your first sentence and we are just getting into semantics here, but I don't know if you meant that once a guy gets hired at the NBA level that he works a 50/50 split schedule for his first 4 yrs. That statement would be incorrect. Their first yr. in the NBA it is more like an 80/20 and maybe a 70/30 at most. I know this is the internet and not everyone can be trusted with their information but trust me(redundant, I know) when I say i know more than a little bit about this area.

Nevadaref Wed Jun 25, 2008 04:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64
I agree with you completely with your first sentence and we are just getting into semantics here, but I don't know if you meant that once a guy gets hired at the NBA level that he works a 50/50 split schedule for his first 4 yrs. That statement would be incorrect. Their first yr. in the NBA it is more like an 80/20 and maybe a 70/30 at most. I know this is the internet and not everyone can be trusted with their information but trust me(redundant, I know) when I say i know more than a little bit about this area.

Never claimed that it was 50/50. The newer guys do work more D-League games, but with only 60 referees they still get a decent number of NBA assignments.

Since you know how the NBA system works, check where one of the four group supervisors for the referees lives. ;)

Welpe Wed Jun 25, 2008 05:11pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
First!

Uhm....this needs some work. It needs to be the first post of a thread.

Props to Juggles for using pwn. Now all you need is a thread comprised soley of AOL speak and this thread will be cemented in the annals of Hades. ;)

Hey, Jurassic, how do I become an esteemed (or is it steamed? I never got that clarified) member of the peanut gallery? Do I need to purchase a silt and mud stamp?

dblref Wed Jun 25, 2008 07:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64
CaRef5,

I'm young like yourself. I'm 22 and officiate all levels except NAIA and D3. the guys make a good point about ppl making up whatever they want to and so some ppl might lie to u about what they ref. but just take it for what it is, the internet, and for the most part you can take ppl on here at their word if they ever decide to take your thread seriously and post their exp. which I doubt will happen. Good luck to you in your officiating endeavors.

So, you're saying you ref at the D2 and D1 level? Just clarifying.

BTW, I'm 65 (as of this past May), I officiated for 22 years (basket ball) and 27 years (soccer), and my highest level in both sports was HS varsity. I say "was" as I no longer officiate. It came down to a choice of replacing both knees, or continue officiating. I chose to keep my current knees, even though going up a long flight of stairs causes me to periodically learn new "forms of expression", as in &%^*!!! that hurts!

Raymond Wed Jun 25, 2008 08:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dblref
So, you're saying you ref at the D2 and D1 level? Just clarifying.

His D1 supervisor also runs a D2 conference.

26 Year Gap Wed Jun 25, 2008 09:29pm

Great thread. Thought there was the danger of it turning into OOOA or something like that.

btaylor64 Wed Jun 25, 2008 09:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Never claimed that it was 50/50. The newer guys do work more D-League games, but with only 60 referees they still get a decent number of NBA assignments.

Since you know how the NBA system works, check where one of the four group supervisors for the referees lives. ;)


sorry once again it's semantics, but I meant the new guys get 80% nba games and 20% D-League games. Once they get hired they always work way more nba games than D-League games. What does where one of the supervisors live have to do with anything?

Nevadaref Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64
sorry once again it's semantics, but I meant the new guys get 80% nba games and 20% D-League games. Once they get hired they always work way more nba games than D-League games.

Yep, that is right again, but I now see how my post was a bit unclear. I was saying that a guy in his 3rd year with the NBA will work more games at that level than someone in his 1st year. Of course, both will still work games in the D-League.

Quote:

Originally Posted by btaylor64
What does where one of the supervisors live have to do with anything?

Think about it for a bit. ;)

Jurassic Referee Thu Jun 26, 2008 06:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dblref
So, you're saying you ref at the D2 and D1 level? Just clarifying.

His name shows up on this website:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/referees/browse
Before they started to update it, it showed him doing about 4 games in a very small D1 conference. I forgot which one but it doesn't matter.

Interestingly enough, his name doesn't show up on this site though:
http://www.bbstate.com/officials/
That is possibly just an oversight.

Note also that the immortal Bhuck Elics shows up on both sites.

Larks Thu Jun 26, 2008 06:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSidbury
Yet another post that has disintigrated far from the sincere intent of the poster.

I feel for ya, CaRef5.

I do not understand how some of these seasoned forum-dwellers… and by proxy seasoned referees… could utilize such habitual sarcastic and cynical tones.

Why the same 'ol peanut gallery rhetoric?
There, I said it: "peanut gallery".
And that term is not meant to offend anyone directly, just to call it what it is...

Sheesh...

:confused:

My take - I get what he was trying to do - intro himself, maybe get a feel for who is all on here. The reality - there are many on here that wont say. If you are working D1 or NBA - chances are you aren't posting here. The stakes are higher than ever and getting hired includes most likely your googleability.

An additional point is why not ask for weight and what high school we graduated from? This isnt a social board, its a rules and mechanics board. We talk basketball....1 annual baseball thread....and sometimes squirrels.

I agree with the former poster that said it doesn't matter how old you are and it's kind of taboo to bring it up. Im sure officials lead men's demographics in men's hair dye purchases if you know what I mean.

So age wont be discussed

Level - A - doesn't matter / can get someone in trouble and B - wont be discussed because in general, most of the good ones dont go throwing around what they are working. It comes off arrogant. Dont get me wrong, I was talking with a big hitter here in Cincy today and he LOVES to talk about his schedule so there are some out there that will.

Thus we have a thread that has disintegrated into pwnage and FIRST.

Having said all that.....

SECOND!!

dblref Fri Jun 27, 2008 01:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
His name shows up on this website:
http://statsheet.com/mcb/referees/browse
Before they started to update it, it showed him doing about 4 games in a very small D1 conference. I forgot which one but it doesn't matter.

Interestingly enough, his name doesn't show up on this site though:
http://www.bbstate.com/officials/
That is possibly just an oversight.

Note also that the immortal Bhuck Elics shows up on both sites.

Thanks, Jurrasic. I was just curious because of the way in which he posted. BTW, those are 2 interesting links. I found a couple of guys listed that I did some HS ball with and 1 individual shows up on one site with "1" game, and "115" games on the other site.

CaRef5 Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larks
My take - I get what he was trying to do - intro himself, maybe get a feel for who is all on here. The reality - there are many on here that wont say. If you are working D1 or NBA - chances are you aren't posting here. The stakes are higher than ever and getting hired includes most likely your googleability.

An additional point is why not ask for weight and what high school we graduated from? This isnt a social board, its a rules and mechanics board. We talk basketball....1 annual baseball thread....and sometimes squirrels.

I agree with the former poster that said it doesn't matter how old you are and it's kind of taboo to bring it up. Im sure officials lead men's demographics in men's hair dye purchases if you know what I mean.

So age wont be discussed

Level - A - doesn't matter / can get someone in trouble and B - wont be discussed because in general, most of the good ones dont go throwing around what they are working. It comes off arrogant. Dont get me wrong, I was talking with a big hitter here in Cincy today and he LOVES to talk about his schedule so there are some out there that will.

Thus we have a thread that has disintegrated into pwnage and FIRST.

Having said all that.....

SECOND!!





Good way to put it... just wanted to get a bit of demographic out of this thread

Mark Padgett Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Maybe we can make it simpler.

What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color?

1. Skippy Weaselpants
2. Get Earl Strom deified
3. Off-color


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