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ajs8207 Sun May 25, 2008 07:56pm

"On the Floor"
 
Does anyone say "on the floor"? Is this frowned upon? If it is, what would you say instead? Possibly "Spot" while pointing to the spot out of bounds where the ball is to be thrown in?

26 Year Gap Sun May 25, 2008 08:09pm

"White ball."

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun May 25, 2008 08:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajs8207
Does anyone say "on the floor"? Is this frowned upon? If it is, what would you say instead? Possibly "Spot" while pointing to the spot out of bounds where the ball is to be thrown in?


ajs8207:

Harlem Globetrotters vs. Washington Generals. Generals point guard Red Klotzman, the best set shot shooter ever to play the game is fouled while in the act of shooting a set shot. (Point of information: When a player shoots a set shot, his feet never leave the court.)

QUESTION: If you are the official calling the foul, would you say "on the floor?"

MTD, Sr.

ajs8207 Sun May 25, 2008 09:13pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
"White ball."

It would be white ball either way. Is that sufficient to say for a non shooting foul?

Scrapper1 Sun May 25, 2008 09:19pm

No shot!

26 Year Gap Sun May 25, 2008 09:20pm

If you call out "White ball" [or whatever color] and point to the spot, it should be obvious that it is non-shooting. Especially as you report the foul and either indicate the number of shots or point to the spot.

Nevadaref Sun May 25, 2008 09:43pm

Try any of the following:

"No shot."

"Before the shot."

"Out of bounds"

"White ball endline."

BktBallRef Mon May 26, 2008 08:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajs8207
Does anyone say "on the floor"? Is this frowned upon? If it is, what would you say instead? Possibly "Spot" while pointing to the spot out of bounds where the ball is to be thrown in?

Let me offer this.

Don't penalize the shooter by calling the foul before the shooter begins the act of shooting. I see guys all the time using a quick whistle and kill the play just before (*and sometimes after) the shooter is about to release the ball.

(*and sometimes after) I see far too many officials who don't recognize when the shot has begun! The shooter picks up the dribble take a step, his hands are going up with the ball, there's contact, the whistle sounds, the ball is released and the official yells, "On the floor!!" :mad:

BTW, I see this far more often with inexperienced officials but I also see it with veterans. It makes me cringe. :o

Be patient! Let the play develop! Hold your whistle, give the shooter an opportunity to make his play and then whistle the foul.

mick Mon May 26, 2008 09:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Let me offer this.

Don't penalize the shooter by calling the foul before the shooter begins the act of shooting. I see guys all the time using a quick whistle and kill the play just before (*and sometimes after) the shooter is about to release the ball.

(*and sometimes after) I see far too many officials who don't recognize when the shot has begun! The shooter picks up the dribble take a step, his hands are going up with the ball, there's contact, the whistle sounds, the ball is released and the official yells, "On the floor!!" :mad:

BTW, I see this far more often with inexperienced officials but I also see it with veterans. It makes me cringe. :o

Be patient! Let the play develop! Hold your whistle, give the shooter an opportunity to make his play and then whistle the foul.

Yeah, some of the normal movements associated with a shot are made before elevation.

Scrapper1 Tue May 27, 2008 07:49am

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