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MOofficial Thu May 08, 2008 03:35pm

Great Question
 
I was out in Lawrence this past weekend for a Big XII camp and had someone ask a great question regarding the number of times a person should go to a camp before he/she says to themselves I need to go another direction (as in a different league, or lower level). The person talking at the moment to the group did not have an answer for that question. Didn't know if any of you have heard that question answered.

JugglingReferee Thu May 08, 2008 03:58pm

I have found that the human gut instinct is pretty neat.

Adam Thu May 08, 2008 04:17pm

134

26 Year Gap Thu May 08, 2008 04:34pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
I have found that the human gut instinct is pretty neat.

And perhaps the guy at camp asking the question was shortchanged in that dept.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu May 08, 2008 04:56pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
134

Snaqs:

I think you are forgetting: If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."

Therefore I think your estimate is low by a factor of at least ten. :)

MTD, Sr.

Adam Thu May 08, 2008 05:08pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Snaqs:

I think you are forgetting: If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."

Therefore I think your estimate is low by a factor of at least ten. :)

MTD, Sr.

I almost went with 70 times 70, but that was the answer to a different question. :)

Back In The Saddle Thu May 08, 2008 05:15pm

The answer is either

42

or

69, Dude!

Adam Thu May 08, 2008 07:41pm

I like 42, and I'm pissed I didn't think of it first. I don't like you any more.

JRutledge Thu May 08, 2008 07:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOofficial
I was out in Lawrence this past weekend for a Big XII camp and had someone ask a great question regarding the number of times a person should go to a camp before he/she says to themselves I need to go another direction (as in a different league, or lower level). The person talking at the moment to the group did not have an answer for that question. Didn't know if any of you have heard that question answered.

As many times as you can afford it and it is worth your time to continue to attend. And if that is 100 times for a person, then it is a 100 times. ;)

Peace

Back In The Saddle Fri May 09, 2008 07:11am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I like 42, and I'm pissed I didn't think of it first. I don't like you any more.

Well I, for one, am going to take the high road on this one...

Neener, neener, neener. :P

(Anybody less high brow would not have capitalized the first 'N')

Adam Fri May 09, 2008 09:09am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
Well I, for one, am going to take the high road on this one...

A high horse on a low road doesn't mean the road is high. :)

Oh, and I checked snopes, and "high road" is a myth.

JS 20 Fri May 09, 2008 09:12am

You know what I think would be helpful? I think it would be helpful if someone offered their opinion on the actual question that was asked. I can't answer it because I'm young and I've only been to one camp. One of my least favorite things about this board is that when someone asks a question and one of you "veteran" posters doesn't like it or thinks it's silly, you're quick to fill up the thread with nonsense. I'm sure some of you could actually answer the question but chose not to.

Adam Fri May 09, 2008 09:17am

Posts number 2 and 9 are serious, and correct, answers.

I hope that's helpful.

socalreff Fri May 09, 2008 11:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOofficial
I was out in Lawrence this past weekend for a Big XII camp and had someone ask a great question regarding the number of times a person should go to a camp before he/she says to themselves I need to go another direction (as in a different league, or lower level). The person talking at the moment to the group did not have an answer for that question. Didn't know if any of you have heard that question answered.

I think if you've been a few times and really believe you are ready to work for that assignor, have a frank discussion with the assignor about his opinion of your ability and career track. It's definitely been helpful to me to know where I stand with the different assignors so that I can make better decisions with my time and energy. If you are going to a camp strictly to improve your ability, then go until you feel like you've gleaned what you can from that staff.

Mwanr1 Fri May 09, 2008 11:11am

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Originally Posted by socalreff
I think if you've been a few times and really believe you are ready to work for that assignor, have a frank discussion with the assignor about his opinion of your ability and career track. It's definitely been helpful to me to know where I stand with the different assignors so that I can make better decisions with my time and energy. If you are going to a camp strictly to improve your ability, then go until you feel like you've gleaned what you can from that staff.

I feel the same

JRutledge Fri May 09, 2008 11:15am

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Originally Posted by JS 20
You know what I think would be helpful? I think it would be helpful if someone offered their opinion on the actual question that was asked. I can't answer it because I'm young and I've only been to one camp. One of my least favorite things about this board is that when someone asks a question and one of you "veteran" posters doesn't like it or thinks it's silly, you're quick to fill up the thread with nonsense. I'm sure some of you could actually answer the question but chose not to.

For your information I answered the question honestly and seriously. And the there is no right or wrong answer to this question. It is ultimately up to you to decide what you want to do just like anything in life. And that is likely the reason many of the people made light of the question because there is no real answer that is going to make everyone happy.

JS, I suggest you lighten up a little bit. It is the off season and people are having a little fun. That goes on around here from time to time.

Peace

Jurassic Referee Fri May 09, 2008 11:58am

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Originally Posted by JS 20
One of my least favorite things about this board is that when someone asks a question and one of you "veteran" posters doesn't like it or thinks it's silly, you're quick to fill up the thread with nonsense.

http://www.forumspile.com/Understand..._(Pancake).jpg

Scrapper1 Fri May 09, 2008 04:28pm

I think the posters who have said that it really depends on the individual's finances and priorities are correct. I would never presume to tell another official that he should stop going to a camp that he felt was still beneficial to him.

Having said that, the answer that was right for me, personally, in one case was 4, and in another case was only 2. I went to one particular camp 4 times. Going into the fourth time, I talked to the assignor and had a good conversation with him, which was encouraging, but certainly not a promise that he'd give me games. After that fourth time, I also talked to one of the observers there and asked him if this camp was still worth my time and money. He said, quite honestly, that if I hadn't cracked the assignor's roster by now, it was unlikely that I would. So I decided that I wouldn't attend anymore after that.

As it turned out, I actually did get a couple games from the assignor after that, but I had made my decision before that.

The other camp I mentioned was far outside my geographic area, and while it was a great teaching camp, it was obvious very quickly that I wouldn't get any game assignments from that camp. It was expensive and far away, and so I attended only twice.

I'm sure that's not interesting to anybody, but that's all I got. :)

Adam Fri May 09, 2008 04:37pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I'm sure that's not interesting to anybody, but that's all I got. :)

Maybe not interesting, but I'm sure it was helpful.

Jurassic Referee Fri May 09, 2008 04:49pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Maybe not interesting, but I'm sure it was helpful.

I'm not sure it was helpful.

Maybe we should have a poll.......

Dan_ref Fri May 09, 2008 05:02pm

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Originally Posted by JS 20
You know what I think would be helpful? I think it would be helpful if someone offered their opinion on the actual question that was asked. I can't answer it because I'm young and I've only been to one camp. One of my least favorite things about this board is that when someone asks a question and one of you "veteran" posters doesn't like it or thinks it's silly, you're quick to fill up the thread with nonsense. I'm sure some of you could actually answer the question but chose not to.

You're right. Here's your answer: only go to 1 camp. If you don't get an invitation to the d1 ncaa tourney after that give it up.

Anything else?

Adam Fri May 09, 2008 05:02pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I'm not sure it was helpful.

Maybe we should have a poll.......

Where's M&M when you need him?

Dan_ref Fri May 09, 2008 05:04pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Maybe not interesting, but I'm sure it was helpful.

And I would agree it's all he's got.

Dan_ref Fri May 09, 2008 05:05pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Where's M&M when you need him?

He's standing on his head practicing to be W&W

Jurassic Referee Fri May 09, 2008 05:44pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
You're right. Here's your answer: only go to 1 camp. If you don't get an invitation to the d1 ncaa tourney after that give it up.

Or alternatively, move to southern California.

Three years there and you get a Final Four.

Or so I've been told......

tjones1 Fri May 09, 2008 06:04pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Where's M&M when you need him?

That's a really good question. Maybe he's on summer vacation like me! :D


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