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M&M Guy Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
As a rule I never talk about any of these things in mixed company because you never know who you'll offend (and gawd knows I would never want to offend anyone... except maybe that annoying irritant troll Bhuk Elics)

1. Religion
2. Politics
3. The relative level of athleticism and competition men's basketball to woman's

4. Palming?

fullor30 Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:03pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018
The fact that coaches, players, fans, and even many officials can't properly learn one set of rules should be warning enough against implementing two sets! :D


That's one of many good reasons not to

Dan_ref Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:06pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
4. Palming?

Yeah that too, until recently. :rolleyes:

fullor30 Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:08pm

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Originally Posted by socalreff
We already have different rules in CA.
The rationale is that it prepares them better for the college game as well as speeding up play.
I still think they have the shot clocks wrong though....it should be 30 for boys and 35 for girls.


What rules differ?

IMHO, the rationale is dumb as 95 % of high school players aren't playing at the next level. So NCAAW should adapt WNBA rules to prepare them for the pros?

Why not enjoy the moment and not be worried about ...........the next level.

Mark Padgett Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:08pm

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Originally Posted by socalreff
We already have different rules in CA.
The rationale is that it prepares them better for the college game as well as speeding up play.

That's actually a good argument to have one set of rules in college.

fullor30 Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
4. Palming?


I gave that up for Lent.

Mark Padgett Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
I gave that up for Lent.

Dumb blond asks boyfriend to have sex. He tells her he can't because it's Lent. She asks, "to who and for how long?"

Dan_ref Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:17pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Dumb blond asks boyfriend to have sex. He tells her he can't because it's Lent. She asks, "to who and for how long?"

Three blonde friends died together in a car wreck. They found themselves standing in front of the pearly gates with St. Peter. He told them that before they could enter heaven, they had to tell him what Easter was about.

The first blonde said, "Easter is a big holiday where we give thanks, have a big feast and eat turkey."

"Nooooo," said St. Peter. "You don't get in."

The second blonde said, "Easter is the holiday that we celebrate Jesus' being born of the virgin and give gifts to each other."

"Nooooo," said St. Peter. "You don't get in, either."

The third blonde said, "Well, I know what Easter is all about. Easter is a Christian holiday which coincides with the Jewish Passover. After Jesus celebrated Passover with His disciples, He was betrayed by Judas and turned over to the Romans. They crucified Him on a cross. After He died, they buried him in a tomb and put a huge boulder in front of it."

"Very good!" said St. Peter.

The blonde continued. "Now, every year, the Jews roll the stone away and Jesus comes out. If He sees his shadow, we have 6 more weeks of basketball."

Back In The Saddle Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
So I guess this guy is out a luck if # 4 gets approved.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_rzJHDdHabLw/...+armed+man.gif

Not at all! If I'm not mistaken, that's a loaded handgun in that guy's left hand. If that's the case, I'd be willing make him the third on the crew and let him deal with coaches, fans, and mouthy players! :D

rainmaker Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:26pm

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1. Instant replay by state adoption.
Absolutely no way.
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2. Add definition of a "dark" jersey.
3. Adjustments to rules for hair control devices.
Don't care.
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4. Adopting the NCAAW closely guarded rules.
5. Change team control rules to include the throw-in.
6. Add common fouls during a throw-in to the definition of team control foul.
Yes
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7. Change definition of team control so that team control ends on a defensive deflection.
Yes
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8. Add a new definition for "offensive fouls".
don't care.
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9. Eliminate the jump ball to begin overtime
10. Eliminate the resumption of play procedure and add another delay of game warning.
11. Play halves instead of quarters.
12. Eliminate coaches' ability to request time-out during live ball.
Absolutely!
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13. Allow coaches to request a "Safety Time-Out" when player safety becomes a concern.
Is Jim right when he talks about a Safety Time-Out? If he is, I'm completely against it. but I'm assuming he's just joking. SO what is a Safety Time-Out?
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14. Adopt NCAA rules for FT alignment.
Don't care
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15. Ignore swinging of elbows violation by defense if committed during a successful try.
No.
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16. Shot clock by state adoption.
Yes.
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17. Adjust penalty for excessive TO; penalize only if discovered when violated.
Why?
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18. Adjust penalty for illegal jerseys; one team technical maximum.
19. Technical foul for causing the ring to vibrate, regardless of whether the contact on the backboard is intentional or not.
Don't care.
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20. Shoot the bonus on the second team foul in the last two minutes of the second half, regardless of total team fouls.
No.

tmp44 Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:29pm

For those of you who want to get rid of the jumpball to start overtime...why? Is it just because that's not how we start every other quarter?

Back In The Saddle Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:32pm

As for two-handed reporting, I've only seen it done. I've not worked any leagues that do it myself. So, I'm speculating...

But I like how it appears to simplify reporting. It goes a little quicker. There seems to be less liklihood of the scorekeeper missing a digit. Though the times I've tried it (in summer ball, just for kicks), it was surprisingly more difficult to do.

But if it speeds up reporting, and makes it less error prone, I'm all over it.

Mark Padgett Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by tmp44
For those of you who want to get rid of the jumpball to start overtime...why? Is it just because that's not how we start every other quarter?

HUH? Did they change the rule on how to start the first quarter while I was taking one of my daily naps? :confused:

26 Year Gap Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:43pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
HUH? Did they change the rule on how to start the first quarter while I was taking one of my daily naps? :confused:

Next year, starting the game with a coin toss will be proposed. But who will we toss the coin toward?

JRutledge Tue Apr 01, 2008 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
As for two-handed reporting, I've only seen it done. I've not worked any leagues that do it myself. So, I'm speculating...

But I like how it appears to simplify reporting. It goes a little quicker. There seems to be less liklihood of the scorekeeper missing a digit. Though the times I've tried it (in summer ball, just for kicks), it was surprisingly more difficult to do.

But if it speeds up reporting, and makes it less error prone, I'm all over it.

How does it make it quicker? And I really do not see this as simpler either. If you want to make reporting quicker, all you have to do is get rid of the reporting area and allow officials to walk and talk, and that would solve that problem. But I can see how scorekeepers will just mistake the right hand for the left hand and mix the numbers and you will have problems.

Peace


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