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Dan_ref Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:20am

2008 March Madness - the REAL brackets
 
http://www.payscale.com/2008-march-m...htm?basketball

Adam Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:22am

They should run these figures against the cost of living index for their respective locations. San Diego wouldn't have beat Drake by nearly as much, otherwise.

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:28am

If the brackets were originally determined by that criteria, the final would be between Harvard (Bill Gates' school - even though he dropped out) and Oregon (Phil Knight's alma mater). Those two would probably skew the numbers enough.

Dan_ref Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:41am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
They should run these figures against the cost of living index for their respective locations. San Diego wouldn't have beat Drake by nearly as much, otherwise.

That assumes that every Stanford grad finds a job in the bay area and every Drake grad finds a job in Des Moines, don't you agree? And look who came in second... I don't think South Bend is exactly a high cost of living place to live. CS Fullerton comes in near the bottom... Orange County CA is not the cheapest place to live in the country.

Welpe Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:45am

I went to the wrong school and/or picked the wrong career. :eek:

Adam Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:55am

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
That assumes that every Stanford grad finds a job in the bay area and every Drake grad finds a job in Des Moines, don't you agree? And look who came in second... I don't think South Bend is exactly a high cost of living place to live. CS Fullerton comes in near the bottom... Orange County CA is not the cheapest place to live in the country.

Not every grad, just a statistically significant percentage.

I think some universities are, by nature regional in that there grads are more likely to stay in the region because their students are more likely to come from that area. Drake is a high quality school, but I'd bet a higher percentage of their students can get to Mom and Dad within a 3 hour drive than Notre Dame, UCLA, Duke, Standford, etc.

California state schools are different due to their hierarchical nature. Cal Berkley has far more stringent entrance requirements than Fullerton, for example.

Welpe Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:01pm

Fullerton is a Cal State school whereas Berkeley is a University of California school. The UC system's requirements on paper are higher than the CSU schools. You are correct though that some are harder to get into than others. It is very hard to get into UC Berkeley or UCLA, and much easier to get into UC Santa Cruz. Then there are the high quality CSU schools such as Cal Poly - San Luis Obispo (Go Mustangs!) that are harder to get into than the lower tier UC schools.

What's my point? I have no idea, I just felt like talking about how wonderful California is.....or isn't. :D

On a side note, I am working about an hour north of Palo Alto (where Stanford is) and I started making about half of their median wages. I wonder if most of these jobs are in engineering, because I'm not sure what other entry level jobs would pay $100,000 for a new hire with just a bachelor's, even if it is from Stanford.

fullor30 Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Lateesha's Beauty School had a play-in game against Devry. We will be back next year.

Raymond Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:34pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe

What's my point? I have no idea, I just felt like talking about how wonderful California is.....or isn't. :D

But we all know who would win if the brackets were based on "quality college" officials.

fullor30 Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:34pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
If the brackets were originally determined by that criteria, the final would be between Harvard (Bill Gates' school - even though he dropped out) and Oregon (Phil Knight's alma mater). Those two would probably skew the numbers enough.


Not twue.......even though I got a C in statistics, I do remember that median is not an average just a middle point.

rockyroad Fri Mar 28, 2008 01:05pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
Lateesha's Beauty School had a play-in game against Devry. We will be back next year.

Keep an eye on ITT Technical...heard they had a great recruiting class this year.

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 28, 2008 01:06pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
Not twue.......even though I got a C in statistics, I do remember that median is not an average just a middle point.

They didn't teach me that at the Frankfort Undergraduate College of Kentucky. Good old FU....., well, never mind. :p

BTW - I wonder how hard it is to get into the on-line school from which my sister-in-law was able to obtain a PhD in theology for her dog? Now the dog is licensed to perform marriages here in Oregon! It's twue, it's twue.

rgncjn Fri Mar 28, 2008 01:10pm

Cool.

For the first time in tournament history, a #16 seed up-ended a #1 seed.

Mark Dexter Fri Mar 28, 2008 01:16pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
They should run these figures against the cost of living index for their respective locations. San Diego wouldn't have beat Drake by nearly as much, otherwise.

Yabut, if you're living in California, you're virtually guaranteed a ton of D-I games on your schedule. That has to raise the median income somehow. :cool:

Mark Dexter Fri Mar 28, 2008 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by rgncjn
Cool.

For the first time in men's tournament history, a #16 seed up-ended a #1 seed.

Fixed it.

FWIW, on the women's side, no 15 seed has ever upset a 2.

Raymond Fri Mar 28, 2008 01:43pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Fixed it.

FWIW, on the women's side, no 15 seed has ever upset a 2.

When did the #16 over #1 occur in the Women's tounament?

Mark Dexter Fri Mar 28, 2008 03:08pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
When did the #16 over #1 occur in the Women's tounament?

Hahvahd over Stanford back in 1998.

canuckrefguy Fri Mar 28, 2008 03:59pm

Speaking of Ivy Leaguers...

http://yalebulldogs.cstv.com/sports/...031208aaa.html

A Canadian girl, Melissa Colborne - from just outside Calgary, about three hours south of where I live - is making waves.

Her dad is a big dude in the oil and gas sector - family has a huge acerage, complete with a gymnasium. Her older and younger sisters are both players - youngest is only in grade eleven and is averaging over 30 points a game - just led her team to a provincial championship.

I reffed Colborne a couple times - good player, and MEAN as a snake.

http://yalebulldogs.cstv.com/sports/...melissa00.html

Dad is typical howler monkey fanboy - absolutely clueless about the rules. :p

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 28, 2008 05:28pm

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Originally Posted by canuckrefguy
Speaking of Ivy Leaguers...
A Canadian girl, Melissa Colborne - from just outside Calgary

So she's a "Lady Bulldog"? That's almost as weird as a "Lady Demon Deacon". :p

Dan_ref Fri Mar 28, 2008 06:33pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
So she's a "Lady Bulldog"? That's almost as weird as a "Lady Demon Deacon". :p

Better than a Lady Redman

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 28, 2008 06:37pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Better than a Lady Redman

At UC Irvine, are the women's teams called "Lady Anteaters" or just "Uncle-eaters"? :confused:

Dan_ref Fri Mar 28, 2008 06:55pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
At UC Irvine, are the women's teams called "Lady Anteaters" or just "Uncle-eaters"? :confused:

Rather than getting booted from the forum I'll keep to myself what these ladies may or may not have been eating.


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