I think what fiasco was saying - and what I was referring to - was us, as officials, being conscious of how quick we are to judge, criticize, and second-guess others....seeing as how we can be sometimes be fairly defensive when it comes to others coming here and criticizing us.

To be aware of that, I don't think, is unreasonable.

Rut,

You hit the nail on the head. If someone hasn't never officiate basketball before, wouldn't know the hard long trail, (camps, junior high ball, semi varsity, varsity, AAU, YMCA etc.) The fan's and observers think that we are just somebody who wants to work a UCLA or Georgetown game. They don't know, (and will never know) how one obtains D1 status. They also do not factor that unlike the teams they root for, or the announcers call for, that we call the best game every time we are on the court.

You can say that I'm weird, but I consider being a sport's official, part of a fraternity. The only people who could understand what we go through is another sports official. I know I'm not perfect, but if you show me someone who is perfect and I'll show you someone that isn't a official.

The media will never understand. Neither some coaches. But, before they start to judge us, be in our shoes for one quarter with two hostile coaches, crazy fans, and a tie ball game with 4 seconds left that will decide a ball game that will decide the world championship game.

You learn, you make mistakes, and you grow up trying not to make mistakes again. The media will never know until they do their research or realize we have a harder job than what they use to thought.


Bud

Once again, I do not compare a fan that is supporting a team with a media member that can fact check information and is reporting to the general public. Even if I had an opinion about this issue, I do not have a forum to voice that opinion on the national airways or I do not write an article that millions have the opportunity to read. I guess what we say here can be seen by millions, but the reality a very small percentage of people will ever read our comments here and our comments are not referenced as fact about sports and officiating.

Hill suggested that the NBA is looking for the average Joe off the street that has never officiated a game in their life to work in the NBA. Not only is that not true, there is no suggestion that this information is true. If you have never worked a JH game in your life, chances of you working in the NBA or being hired by the NDBL is slim to none. She could have fact checked that information before spouting off what the "try out" actually entailed.

Peace

Both.

If these people REALLY want to look like they understand the process and the players they would have done a nice in depth piece on how this all works.

But they don't really care about reporting, they just want to toss off snotty comments. This is nothing new, it's really simpler to say Busk is dumb, Hillary is a liar, Obama is a Moslem and the refs all suck than it is to think about what's really going on in the world, isn't it?

Correct..it's all about sound bytes and 10 second attention spans. Be controversial, to justify their few minutes in the chair they can't be bland nor do they have the time.

Reflecting, we should take it with a grain of salt, consider the source and lump them into the fanboy category that we as officials have to deal with continually.

Why am I not surprised. A bunch of "whistle boys" taking pot shots at and industry they know nothing about.

Lah, me :rolleyes:

Piss off, troll.

I was in the industry on the TV side for 10 years and now happen to freelance on the print side.

I also have several friends who are national names on the sport side you're very familar with.

A bunch of "whistle boys" taking pot shots at and industry they know nothing about.

That would be an industry.

But, we're doing it on OUR site, amongst ourselves.....we're not going to the media or a fan or media forum and throwing the hand grenade over the wall and leaving. JMO.

BINGO!!!

Yup. Very good point, Mark. Count me in as one.

JRut is complaining about inaccurate facts being reported. If a fanboy complained about inproper rules application by an official I know I wouldn't have a problem with that.

And if JRut made his post on a media website I'm confident he could have a rationale, reasonable, and intelligent conversation with someone on that site who disagreed. Fanboys are those folks on this site who are incapable of such.

Well, I am definitely not an Insurance Salesman, but I got an email to put in an application for a D-League try-out camp and I am going. The experience alone is worth it!!!!

But I'm sure you've stayed in a Holiday Inn Express or 2. ;)

Or 3, but it was more pleasure than business!!!!