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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

To be fair to Nevada that game was played before the NCAA tourney started. I think he is saying that once the NCAA tourney starts no one has worked an NIT game then come back and did a NCAA tourney game.

But I don't want to get in the middle of y'alls :) fun.

If that's what he was saying, he's still wrong.

Kelly Self worked the Wisconsin-CS-Fullerton game last Thursday.

He worked the CBI game between Tulsa and Utah this past Monday night.

He worked the Xavier-WVU game tonight.

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Is there anything else I can help you with? :p

I can't argue with those facts, Tony. The way the assignments are handled clearly must be changing.

You win this one.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I can't argue with those facts, Tony. The way the assignments are handled clearly must be changing.

You win this one.

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That was too easy...can't you call him a name or something?

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I thought Ted Valentine was also from West Virginia. I went to Mike Eades' camp a couple years ago and Teddy V. was there and Mike was able to scrouge up a photo of Teddy playing baseball in college at a small West Virginia school.

Yes, Ted Valentine is from West Virginia. Bill Kennedy, the NCAA official not the NBA official, is also originally from West Virginia. I'm not sure, but I thought Mike Lazo is also from West Virginia. Lazo is the official that was bumped by OJ Mayo when Mayo was in high school.

West Virginia ???

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Originally Posted by tomegun

Ted Valentine is from West Virginia. Bill Kennedy is also originally from West Virginia.

Is West Virginia one of those states where, if you divorce your wife, she's still legally your cousin?

http://www.cafegetaway.com/vacation-...ginia-logo.jpg

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I was born in San Diego. Am I eligible?

That's not really California....:p

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I can't argue with those facts, Tony. The way the assignments are handled clearly must be changing.

You win this one.

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra.../notworthy.gif

It may well have been different in the past. But clearly, it's not that way now.

Zelton Steed also worked in one of the other tourneys this week as well as working Thursday night.

So who gets the call?

Are only the dozen guys who worked the regional finals eligible?

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Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

So who gets the call?

Are only the dozen guys who worked the regional finals eligible?

Anyone who works the 3rd or 4th round is eligible.

Cartmell, Harris, Hightower.

was it me or didn't ed hightower not work in the Sweet 16? He had UCLA and Xavier in the Elite 8

Nobody works both the Sweet 16 and Elite 8... 40 officials are chosen for the regionals (three 3-man crews for each of three games at each site, plus one alternate for all three games at each site)

Any official that works a Regional Semifinal or Final is eligible to be one of the ten chosen for the Final Four and Title Game.

As a side note, Sweet 16 & Elite 8 officials make $950, Final Four/Championship guys earn $1400. Both totals (not including per diem) are less than some of the big dogs make during the regular season!!!

Any guesses as of yet as to who the NCAA will be sending to San Antonio this weekend?

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Originally Posted by Matt S.

As a side note, Sweet 16 & Elite 8 officials make $950, Final Four/Championship guys earn $1400. Both totals (not including per diem) are less than some of the big dogs make during the regular season!!!

In some cases a lot less. From what I understand the NCAA does this in other sports as well. The idea being that the conferences are competing for the best officials by offering the best pay, but working the tourney is an honor so they can undercut the top rates in the premier conferences.

A friend of mine who refs college soccer has told me that it's almost not worth the time off of work to work the College Cup (soccer's final four). The key word must be almost because he's worked the last 3.

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Originally Posted by Matt S.

What conference(s) pays more than a $1400 single game fee?

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef

What conference(s) pays more than a $1400 single game fee?

The Missouri Valley does.

http://forum.officiating.com/showthread.php?t=41311

See post #20. If that poster's info is accurate.