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Sorry - I don't have a spare four hours to read through it. :p

Seriously, on the surface, it seems impressive. Ed T. Rush certainly has credibility.

It's Ed T. Rush trying to make money. There's nothing wrong with that but I'm not going to read through all that stuff when the real meat and potatoes of what he is saying is only available through the purchase of his product.

It sounds like total spam, except that it's got Ed Rush's name on it. I happen to know one of the officials who gave a testimonial on the site. I will contact that person and ask how the program is. I'll get the response to you hopefully today or tomorrow.

Cool, thanks for the feedback guys! I thought I would check-in with the board on this, before obtaining a new monthly bill. Lord knows my game fees are quite lower in the off-season... :(

You've got a PM, Ch1town

And this bill could be a hefty one.....

It's "only" $400, which is basically the cost of one camp.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the main secret is to move to California?

Scrap - I understand it's all relative, but I was also including the part that said "I will invest the low monthly coaching rate of $47 a month."

HA!! I didn't even see that! They sort of slip that in on the enrollment page. Well, that certainly does make a difference. $600/yr? That's pretty steep, unless it includes camp fees. Then it might be worth it.

Yup, don't need no stinking NBA program out there in the Magical Land Of College And Beyond. Three years in Cali and you're at <b>least</b> a D1 official.....automatic.

Of course when you do become a D1 official, all of the first year officials will then tell you how bad you are. As near as I can tell, the average shelf life of all D1 officials in Cali is about 3 games anyway before they're replaced by one of those up-and-comers.

It's true, it's true.......:D

...and after your two month trial is complete, you will be billed at our lowest ever membership rate of $47 a month. Plus, you have no obligation to continue and can cancel at any time.

I noticed that one of the testimonials came from a David Posner, who states he is a D1 official. I checked on BBstate.com and there's no record on there of a Posner doing any D1 games this year. Typo, I wonder? or maybe he's Bhuck Elics alter ego?

I worked with him once a couple years ago and he is a pretty good official, but I have no idea if he has moved up the ladder or not. It's possible he's on staff somewhere but didn't receive any games.

I find it interesting that this is included in the Terms of Use:

So he does all this for free? Or maybe he's paid in salary AND royalties; and the royalties go to charity? I think it's great that he donates some part of the profits to charity. It does make me curious, though.

Also noticed this:

It made me wonder if 40 games is a conservative calculation. There are just under 900 officials listed on bbstate.com. Exactly 127 received 40 or more assignments this season. That's about 14% of officials. It looks to me as though most are in the single digits; and I know that there are many officials on a conference roster who don't get any games.

I realize it's just a sales pitch, but 40 games per season seems optimistic, rather than conservative.

I donate all my ref fees - to my pharmacist. :p

You'll get 40 games if you attend Ed T. Rush's Southern California symposium.

And the pharmacist still doesn't get paid enough.

Ed Rush, Jr., actually runs the business. Ed, Sr., gets a portion of the total income in royalties, and is giving those to charity. I'd guess Ed, Jr, makes a decent amount of money.

so has anybody actually talked to someone who has used this "system"? just curious...

"Plus, hear Olandis’s tip on how a 3.36 oz. piece of gear…which when taken with you on the road, will make your family feel like you never left. (Hint: it’s not your phone.)"

Olandis's hairpiece?

Can you say placebo?
 

I'm thinking from the number of "creative" posts Mark makes, that his pharmacist is WAY overpaid for the results he provides :D

I smell a congressional investigation.

Or, perhaps a poll.

Yes and they recommended it.

Possibly. Look...

Hell, as M&M said, why pay all that money when all you have to do is to move to Socal. Three years and you're a college official....automatic.

I'm going out to Orange County in May to celebrate my birthday with my brother and his family, does that count? Maybe Ed T. Sr will in town give a lecture??

You're like a bad spouse....you hear what you want to hear.

And he is upset that he's always been stuck in the Land of Hgh School and Below. Labels and lack of diversity are so important here. :D

I haven't had a Del Taco bean burrito in YEARS! Which is good 'cause I ate too many of them when I lived in OC.

Yup, there's nothing lower than high school officials. They're the lowest of the low. I've already got that concept from both of you. Personally, I always bow down to the college and above officiating legends like you and LoCal. You are both minimum D1 officials, right? NBA officials using aliases?

My brother drives limos out there and Del Taco is his favorite after-midnight spot.

Ok, I heard back from the person that I emailed about the System. Here are some of the comments that were sent to me. I specifically asked if Ed or anyone in the system will get you into a particular camp or talk to a particular assignor for you:

Thanks for the feedback! Sounds as if he/she thinks it's more than worth the bill... if you dont mind me asking:

1. how long has he/she been in the program?
2. what level of ball does your contact work?

Appreciate it.

1. I don't know. I honestly didn't think to ask. Dumb. But it has to be a little while, since the person's endorsement is on the front page of the website.

2. Currently HS, and attending an NCAA Division 3 tryout for the first time, this summer.

Geeze, I hope t'hell that he hasn't been officiating longer than the magical three year number. If he hasn't attained <b>The Land Of College And Above(tm)</b> by then, he ain't ever gonna make it, Success System or not. He'll be eternally mired in the depths of <b>The Land Of High School And Below(tm)</b>.

In SoCal, you do 100 high school games and tryout for D3 in your first year. It's true, it's true......

:D

Thanks Scapper1! Still debating but you have helped.

JR - I was hoping you'd share some words of wisdom with me on this matter!! Any thoughts on if this would be a good buy for one who would like to go as far as possible with this avocation or should good ol' fashion hardwork in camps do the trick??

I don't have a clue what the program offered entails, but the people involved sure seem credible. It can't hurt. Whether it is worth the money though....I can't tell you. Ya pays your moneys...ya takes your chances.:)

One thing to think about is whether the program offered maybe is geared towards a person trying to ultimately obtain an NBA position or whether it will actually help get you into college ball, if that is your goal. The main people involved seem to be NBA-oriented. Bear in mind, if you go the college route, if you're good enough in that area the NBA will find you.

Having said that, you might just be as far ahead(or further) imo if you can find a mentor in your area at the level you are trying to attain. That person could answer your questions and point you in the right direction. Find out what they did to get their chance. You have to learn what is needed in the Ch1town area to get that chance at your goals.

You will have to go to camps though. You will have to work your head off. You will have to be a sponge. And you will have to play politics to some degree, but you will also have to learn the politics that need to be played.

Jmo, Ch1town....but keep working towards your goal, whether you pay for the Rush system or not. You also have at least 3 people that post here....in Jeff Rutledge, Bob Jenkins and M&M....that I think have a good knowledge of your area re: camps,local politics, etc. Use 'em.

I know that is all pretty vague, but there is no magic answer to your question imo. No matter what, good luck.

Thanks for the feedback & advice JR, much appreciated!

I think this says it all in a nutshell. It seems like it can't hurt you, except financially. The people involved know what they're talking about. Good luck with whatever decision you make.

I don't think its worth it.... JMO. I do know one of the tesmtionalers and I can ask him, I also know someone else who got it.


I can tell you right now that this is a joke:

$800 is not an entry level D1 conference game fee.... :rolleyes:
1/2 a season faster you're going to get 20 D1 games? :rolleyes:

Just seems like a bad infomerical to me.

On the other hand, I have heard Ed Rush speak, and he is a very very good speaker/teacher. He knows his ****... how much you can learn out of this... who knows. I'll have to talk to some of the people I know who have invested in this already.

Snake, see my post #18 for hard numbers.

There, I fixed it for you.

I ran across this about a year ago
 

I went to the site and it was mostly a promo. Since then, I have received untold number of emails trying to sell their system to me.

That's the way internet based-sales works.

That said, I think it's a high quality program.