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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 12:10am
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here is a video- warriors announcers. I would like to hear the Lakers guys. Go to the 7 minute mark. and the 8 50 mark. I think the trail official should have stepped in. He saw the play from the start. I'm not going to argue if it was an offensive or defensive foul. Perhaps a double foul. again Veteran move by Fisher

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There's also a push/hold on Davis that wasn't called - that was the first thing I saw when I saw the initial replay.

Looks like a good call, anyway, against Ellis, now that I've watched it again 5 times.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 12:36am
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There's also a push/hold on Davis that wasn't called - that was the first thing I saw when I saw the initial replay.

Looks like a good call, anyway, against Ellis, now that I've watched it again 5 times.
I see nothing that changes my mind on this call. It looked to me like the GS player pushed threw to get where he wanted to go. And it is clear little breeze does not know that the people looking at this play would be the Lead and the Center. The Trail has enough going on and would need help to see the entire play and get it right.

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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 09:42am
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After double whistle:

Partner: "I saw your blocking foul, but I had a travel before your foul"

Me: "Thanks for the information. Travel. Blue ball"
Absolutely...but that's not what lbbreeze is talking about and that's not overturning a call, it's a double whistle.

breeze is saying an official has a solo whistle and reports a block. breeze is saying that another official can come to the calling official and tell him that the call is wrong and to wave off the call.

lpbreeze is not an official. He's some fan who stumbled onto this website and is using 2nd-hand and overheard conversations and a lot of conjecture to attempt to make points.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 09:55am
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breeze is saying an official has a solo whistle and reports a block. breeze is saying that another official can come to the calling official and tell him that the call is wrong and to wave off the call.

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That's because [B]lpbreeze[B] is a dork.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 02:14pm
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When did Breeze say this "Breeze is saying an official has a solo whistle and reports a block. breeze is saying that another official can come to the calling official and tell him that the call is wrong and to wave off the call."

jostling son jostling.
Breeze, from the start has been saying perhaps the other two refs can come in and give their information on the play and the outcome is the call could possibly be changed. The play was a puzzle and three refs could have worked to piece it together by what they say. The lead who called the foul DID not see the start and the middle only the end where Ellis fell on Fisher. So even though Fisher has a huge reputation as a flopper he might have gotten away with a foul and thus an OT game ends on a very questionable call. He was not injured either by the way. Perhaps for most of the game I wouldn't want to see these calls changed but in very crucial moments at the end of the game the refs could huddle. If this was a foul called in the Playoffs just imagine how much talk there would be about it. Offensive, defense, or non-call people can argue about it but I will stick to my point that the refs could discuss it and then change it if needed.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 02:21pm
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When did Breeze say this "Breeze is saying an official has a solo whistle and reports a block. breeze is saying that another official can come to the calling official and tell him that the call is wrong and to wave off the call."
Just trying to help:

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I've seen fouls changed this year that have nothing to do with the restricted area. From the information Delaney had he thought he was making the correct call and I do not blame him for making it. But he did not have the whole picture. The replay shows that. I simply feel his partners could have stepped in.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 02:34pm
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Yah and I was not just talking about blocking or charging calls although mentioned the restricted area would make it seem like it. I've seen younger refs get overruled this year.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 02:36pm
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I've seen younger refs get overruled this year.
No you haven't, at least not in the way you're describing it by anyone who knows what the hell they're doing.

If you really have seen an official "over-rule" another official on a foul call that the calling official had by himself, then you've seen someone violate one of the very basic rules of officiating.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 02:41pm
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The play was a puzzle and three refs could have worked to piece it together by what they say. The lead who called the foul DID not see the start and the middle only the end where Ellis fell on Fisher. So even though Fisher has a huge reputation as a flopper he might have gotten away with a foul and thus an OT game ends on a very questionable call.
So you had a conversation with all the officials and you know exactly what all the officials saw or did not see? Yeah right.

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He was not injured either by the way. Perhaps for most of the game I wouldn't want to see these calls changed but in very crucial moments at the end of the game the refs could huddle.
So you want the rules to be changed because someone thinks this is critical time of the game? Interesting.

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If this was a foul called in the Playoffs just imagine how much talk there would be about it. Offensive, defense, or non-call people can argue about it but I will stick to my point that the refs could discuss it and then change it if needed.
Sure, I remember when Stoudemire was thrown out of playoff game last year with a rule that was very clear and black and white. Maybe the rules should have been changed to dismiss the actions of Stoudemire because it was a critical moment in the game or the series.


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More reason you have no credibility on this issue.

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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 03:45pm
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No you haven't, at least not in the way you're describing it by anyone who knows what the hell they're doing.

If you really have seen an official "over-rule" another official on a foul call that the calling official had by himself, then you've seen someone violate one of the very basic rules of officiating.
I wanna be there when someone tries to over-rule Delaney. That would be interesting.

BadNews has got the right take re: this clown. You're dealing with a fanboy, not an official.
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Old Wed Mar 26, 2008, 10:39pm
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...Breeze, from the start has been saying perhaps the other two refs can come in and give their information on the play and the outcome is the call could possibly be changed.
Is that the policy on in your High School association?
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