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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 05:27pm
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New Ref here and was wondering if someone can explain to me the difference between a flagrant and intentional T and or foul? Gracias
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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 06:45pm
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An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul which neutralizes an opponent's obvious advantageous position. Contact away from the ball or when not making a legitimate attempt to play the ball or a player, specifically designed to stop or keep the clock from starting, shall be intentional. Intentional fouls may or may not be premeditated and are not based solely on the severity of the act. A foul also shall be ruled intentional if while playing the ball a player causes excessive contact with an opponent.

A flagrant foul may be a personal or technical foul of a violent or savage nature, or a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct. It may or may not be intentional. If personal, it involves, but is not limited to violent contact such as: striking, kicking and kneeing. If technical, it involves dead-ball contact or noncontact at any time which is extreme or persistent, vulgar or abusive conduct. Fighting is a flagrant act.

A technical foul is:
a. A foul by a nonplayer.
b. A noncontact foul by a player.
c. An intentional or flagrant contact foul while the ball is dead, except a foul by an airborne shooter.
d. A direct technical, charged to the head coach because of his/her actions or for permitting a player to participate after having been disqualified. (10-5)
e. An indirect technical, charged to the head coach as a result of a bench technical foul being assessed to team bench personnel, or a player technical foul being assessed to a team member for dunking or grasping the ring during pregame warm-up or at intermission. (10-3-4, 10-4-1 through 5)
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An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul which neutralizes an opponent's obvious advantageous position. Contact away from the ball or when not making a legitimate attempt to play the ball or a player, specifically designed to stop or keep the clock from starting, shall be intentional. Intentional fouls may or may not be premeditated and are not based solely on the severity of the act. A foul also shall be ruled intentional if while playing the ball a player causes excessive contact with an opponent.

A flagrant foul may be a personal or technical foul of a violent or savage nature, or a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct. It may or may not be intentional. If personal, it involves, but is not limited to violent contact such as: striking, kicking and kneeing. If technical, it involves dead-ball contact or noncontact at any time which is extreme or persistent, vulgar or abusive conduct. Fighting is a flagrant act.

A technical foul is:
a. A foul by a nonplayer.
b. A noncontact foul by a player.
c. An intentional or flagrant contact foul while the ball is dead, except a foul by an airborne shooter.
d. A direct technical, charged to the head coach because of his/her actions or for permitting a player to participate after having been disqualified. (10-5)
e. An indirect technical, charged to the head coach as a result of a bench technical foul being assessed to team bench personnel, or a player technical foul being assessed to a team member for dunking or grasping the ring during pregame warm-up or at intermission. (10-3-4, 10-4-1 through 5)
Be sure to jot all that down on your wrist so you'll have it handy for the next game you officiate.
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Be sure to jot all that down on your wrist so you'll have it handy for the next game you officiate.
If his wrist is THAT big he is either out of shape or his name is Bluto.
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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 08:23pm
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Be sure to jot all that down on your wrist so you'll have it handy for the next game you officiate.
I don't think he has any space left?

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Old Mon Mar 10, 2008, 09:33pm
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Billy Mac, I'm sure he can read the rule. Why not explain?

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New Ref here and was wondering if someone can explain to me the difference between a flagrant and intentional T and or foul? Gracias
Newbie, very simply a flagrant technical foul is a contact foul that involves violent or savage contact or an unsportsmanlike non-contact foul that might contain profane or vulgar langauge directed at an opponent or offiical for example. When a flagrant foul is called, a player is disqualified or a coach is DQ'ed and ejected. Also, specific acts are flagrant. Playing after changing numbers without notifying the officials and the scorer, throwing a punch even though it doesn't connect, leaving the bench when there might be a fight, etc.

An intentional technical foul is any contact technical foul during a dead ball. You really don't need to be concerned with the fact that these are considered intentional. It has no bearing on anything.

Concern yourself with intentional personal fouls. Those are fouls that take away an obvious advantage or are designed to kill the clock without making a play on the ball. Also, if contact is excessive even when playing the ball, it can be an intentional foul. But not to the point you judge that the player should be tossed. That would make it flagrant.

Just understand these simple facts:

Contact fouls during a dead ball are always technical.
Contact fouls during a live ball are always personal.
Flagrant fouls whether personal or technical always result in the individual being DQ'ed.

Ignore the NBA definition of flagrant fouls. It has nothing to do with HS rules.
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