But the ball never passed halfcourt!

[Rita C]

Blue vs. White.

I'm L in White's frontcourt when Blue takes the ball. T takes off with some of the players to Blues frontcourt. Blue passes the ball forward. B1 jumps from frontcourt, grabs the pass in air and lands in their backcourt. I blow my whistle and signal over and back.

Coach yells, "The ball never got past the half court line! How can that be over and back?"

First time I had actually made that call. When the coach doubted it, I checked with my partner to make sure I had it right. He was smiling. "No, that was perfect, Rita."

That's where reading casebook and boards like this help. You can recognize violations you haven't actually seen before because they've been made real already in your head.

Rita

[mick]

Good call, Rita.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Rita C

That's where reading casebook and boards like this help. You can recognize violations you haven't actually seen before because they've been made real already in your head.

Yup. no need to keep re-inventing the wheel!

[lpbreeze]

so I don't need to make a new post on backcourt which there have been many.
1.OK so it is backcourt on a pass right? ball deflected by defense, b2. Ball then touched by a1 and rolls into backcourt and a2 gets it. Violation
2.Not a backcourt on a shot attempt?- Ball goes off the rim, hits off offensive player and goes into backcourt. A2 gets ball, violation?
3. If it is a rebound, A1 does a controlled tap to a guard who misses it but gets the ball in the backcourt would that then be a violation?
4.If it is a shot attempt and the ball is rejected and hits A1 and then into backcourt I assume it is not a violation because control has ended but I wanted to check.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

so I don't need to make a new post on backcourt which there have been many.
1.OK so it is backcourt on a pass right? ball deflected by defense, b2. Ball then touched by a1 and rolls into backcourt and a2 gets it. Violation
2.Not a backcourt on a shot attempt?- Ball goes off the rim, hits off offensive player and goes into backcourt. A2 gets ball, violation?
3. If it is a rebound, A1 does a controlled tap to a guard who misses it but gets the ball in the backcourt would that then be a violation?
4.If it is a shot attempt and the ball is rejected and hits A1 and then into backcourt I assume it is not a violation because control has ended but I wanted to check.

1. Correct
2. Incorrect - no violation.
3. Correct
4. Correct

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tjones1

3. Correct

Disagree. There's no player control on any kind of "tap", including a controlled tap. You're only directing the ball on a controlled tap. There's no violation if the ball goes in the backcourt because player control had never been established in the frontcourt.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Disagree. There's no player control on any kind of "tap", including a controlled tap. You're only directing the ball on a controlled tap. There's no violation if the ball goes in the backcourt because player control had never been established in the frontcourt.

Debateable.
If the official deems that the player had control of the ball, then it is a violation. Strictly a judgment call.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by tjones1

3. Correct

Incorrect


My fault, no violation per 4-12-5.

Team control does not exist during a jump ball or the touching of a rebound, but is re-established when a player secures control.