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Old Mon Aug 04, 2008, 05:59pm
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Old Mon Aug 04, 2008, 06:01pm
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First thing i got is green post player for travelling. Unless it's the summer....
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Old Mon Aug 04, 2008, 06:06pm
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Two points for White and the ball OOB for Green anywhere along the endline.

Why? Do you think that something different should have been called on the play?
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Old Mon Aug 04, 2008, 06:07pm
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Hard to tell. You might have nothing at all. The camera angle does not help to show if there was any contact or much contact.

Also I would not have a travel without knowledge of what the player is doing with the ball. You are looking at the players back. You must have control to have a travel. It is not about the feet if a player does not have control of the ball. But I would not expect a coach to know that. Anything that looks funny to them is traveling. The official was looking dead at the play, unlike the video.

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Old Mon Aug 04, 2008, 06:21pm
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Two points for White and the ball OOB for Green anywhere along the endline.

Why? Do you think that something different should have been called on the play?
So your saying goaltending and a blocking foul on green? Would white get to shoot a free throw as well?
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So your saying goaltending and a blocking foul on green? Would white get to shoot a free throw as well?
Goaltending? No way. The ball was not above the rim. And it looked like the ball was on its way up. Two things you need to have GT were not present.

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Old Mon Aug 04, 2008, 06:36pm
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I didn't think it was goaltending either. That's why I questioned the "two points for green".
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Old Mon Aug 04, 2008, 06:58pm
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I didn't think it was goaltending either. That's why I questioned the "two points for green".
Two points for white is what nevadaref said. And that would be because #30 for white scored.
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Looks like a good no-call from the crappy angle we have. Looked to me like the defender flopped; couldn't tell why white stayed down, though.
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First thing we've got is a Trail official (who becomes the new Lead) standing there and watching all the players take off down the court and then finally decides maybe he should get his a$$ going and thus is in absolutely no position to make any call on this play...luckily for him, I don't really think there was anything to call. There wasn't that much contact and the only reason the white player stayed down is because he hit his elbow on the floor...moral of the story - don't get beat down the floor on plays like this. That was just flat-out laziness.
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So your saying goaltending and a blocking foul on green? Would white get to shoot a free throw as well?
Nope, that's not what I'm saying.

White make a basket on a follow-up attempt after the blocked shot. That's where the two points come from.

What GT are you talking about?

What blocking foul?

You still haven't stated what YOU believe should have been called on this play. Please be specific.
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Old Mon Aug 04, 2008, 07:39pm
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Definitely not goaltending, but I think there's probably a blocking foul on the drive. The contact, even if slight, certainly seems to have sent A1 to the floor. Can't tell definitively from the camera angle, but I am leaning more toward the blocking foul than others seem to be.
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Definitely not goaltending, but I think there's probably a blocking foul on the drive. The contact, even if slight, certainly seems to have sent A1 to the floor. Can't tell definitively from the camera angle, but I am leaning more toward the blocking foul than others seem to be.
Did the defender obtain his position before the offensive player became airborne?

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First thing i got is green post player for travelling. Unless it's the summer....
I agree, a travel on the post player first......and then the second play may have never happened!!!!
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Old Mon Aug 04, 2008, 09:08pm
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(NevadaRef... my fault for not being clear about what I was trying to convey. I've always enjoyed your insights on this board. I think I came across a little rude.)

IMHO....

You have to have a whistle on the drive to the basket. From the angle we have it looks like a block to me. I don't see how you can't have a whistle one way or the other on this play.

White gets two free throws and no goaltending IMO.
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