Going OOB=T?-FIBA

[canuckref]

Originally Posted by Oz Referee

I agree that a player intentionally leaving the boundaries of the court in order to gain an advantage could be a technical foul. I have called such a situation only once (in 20 years of refereeing), when a player ran around the outside of the court to avoid a defensive player.

However looking at the 2006 FIBA rules, I can't find anything that specifically mentions it. The best I could come up with was:

38.1.2 Each team shall do its best to secure victory, but this must be done in the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play.

This seems to me to be a provision that makes "cheating" a technical foul, even if there isn't a specific mention of it elsewhere in the rules.

Oh, as an aisde, a few people made mention that this is mentioned "in the casebook", there is NO casebook for FIBA, so I assume you are talking NFHS/NCAA?

Cheers

Duane

I have in front of me something called:

Fiba Official Basketball Rules World Edition Casebook - 2006 Published by Fiba, 80 pages long. I will try and find an internet link to the book for you.

Update: I found a link to a PDF file. It says its 2004 casebook but appears the same as 2006 version I have, Article 38-5 is the same, good luck with the download:
http://zone1officials.homestead.com/..._Case_Book.pdf

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by canuckref

I have in front of me something called:

Fiba Official Basketball Rules World Edition Casebook - 2006 Published by Fiba, 80 pages long. I will try and find an internet link to the book for you.

Update: I found a link to a PDF file. It says its 2004 casebook but appears the same as 2006 version I have, Article 38-5 is the same, good luck with the download:
http://zone1officials.homestead.com/..._Case_Book.pdf

Q: Where can I get a FIBA Casebook?
There is no FIBA Casebook. FIBA does not publish casebooks.

I believe this is a Canadian thing, which has never been officially approved by FIBA. I don't know why. There are some rule interpretations each year which can be found on FIBA.com, but no casebook.

Actually 38-5 seems to be what we were looking for; on the other hand, the wording in 38-7 seems to recall the rule I remember was in the rule book (and disappeared).

[crazy voyager]

Weird, this really looks like an official world wide casebook, just read the introduction.
And cases 38-5 and 38-7 specificly talks about what we have mentioned...
Well then I guess I'll call it if I ever see it again...
Thanks for the link, this one will be usefull!

[Tweet]

I definately have a casebook in ONtario

We switched rules 2 years ago and we all got a Printed Rule Book and Casebook in the same format and same print and looks very official to me. It has the FIBA logo on it which means it would be a FIBA publication and not a FIBA Americas only. Plus like somebody mentioned the second page in it says that it was produced by FredHorgan from Fiba Americas FOR FIBA.

That is one thing I don't like about FIBA... All the zones do their own thing kinda. Like for example Training videos are produced only by FIBA Europe for their own officials...they should make everything international.

[NICK]

The casebook refers to the 2004 rules. We are now using the 2006 rules which does not have reference to purposely running out of bounds. If I have this situation I would stop the game and issue a warning. If it is repeated I would just call a violation and give the ball to the opposition.

[canuckref]

Originally Posted by NICK

The casebook refers to the 2004 rules. We are now using the 2006 rules which does not have reference to purposely running out of bounds. If I have this situation I would stop the game and issue a warning. If it is repeated I would just call a violation and give the ball to the opposition.

Case 38-5 is the same in both the 2004 and 2006 FIBA written casebooks I have

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by NICK

The casebook refers to the 2004 rules. We are now using the 2006 rules which does not have reference to purposely running out of bounds. If I have this situation I would stop the game and issue a warning. If it is repeated I would just call a violation and give the ball to the opposition.

There's no provision in FIBA rules to stop the game in order to issue a warning, if the ball is live and the clock is running. You can stop the clock if a player of the scoring team interferes with the ball before an opponent can get it and issue a warning for delay of game, but here the ball is dead. You can stop a throw-in when a defender breaks the wall.

Moreover there's no "going OOB violation": it's either a T or a warning at the next dead ball. Unfortunately, as I've already said, this case disappeared from the rule book, I believe before 2004.

[NICK]

CANUCKREF
Fiba casebook ruling 38.5 refers to rule 38.5 in the rules, but if you check the latest 2006 official Fiba rulebook there is no such thing as rule 38.5

EG-ITALY
Article 46.13 states that the referee has the power to make any decisions on any point not specifically covered by these rules.

cheers- Nick