Halftime adjustments?
Just curious is all...
I was watching a BV Sectional game last night and there was little flow, in either direction, in the first half...foul and violation calls on nearly every trip. The second half was like an entirely different game with significantly fewer whistles. I could see how both teams made adjustments, but it was pretty apparent that the officials made some adjustments as well. How does this work? I officiate a sport where there is only one ref, so I never get the opportunity to get input from a second official at halftime. Thanks. |
You poor guy. Must be a soccer ref. ;)
Anyhow, we always talk at halftime and adjust as necessary. It really depends on the game, the level of play, etc. |
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W&S --- not soccer!
grunewar --- officials seemed to lighten up a bit on carries (both point guards were iffy with their stop-and-go moves...4 or 5 called in first half, maybe one in second) and contact fouls under basket, esp. rebounding, were called fewer times. Other changes I couldn't identify because this is a sport totally unlike mine...it's really, really tough seeing everything you folks see...but the flow was palpably better in 2nd half. |
Are you sure the officials adjusted? Sometimes, after having 4 or 5 carries called in the first half, players actually adjust and stop violating.
Same goes for fouls. |
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At halftime, my partner and I discussed all the fouls, hand checks, rough play, etc. the game had no flow. We discussed: things to look out for in the second half, hand checks, blocks, players to watch, a double whistle, maybe being out of position on a play or a late switch, etc. Within the first minute of the second half - TWEET! I called another hold! Darn, were we going to have this again? Nope. Buzzer! Coach immediately replaced the player who committed the foul. Apparently, the teams had also talked about what we were calling and the coaches were going to have none of the sloppy play either. 2nd half was good basketball. |
Not 100% 'sure', but just that feeling that there was something going on besides the kids adjusting. In my sport (rugby) the ref sometimes chats with his/her 2 touch-judges at halftime (and during the game) but typically, at the HS and College level, they are representatives of the opposing teams so objectivity is an issue. It's pretty tough with 30 players on the pitch at once and it would be great if there was a second objective soul to discuss penalty calls, game management, etc.
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I'm a bit hesitant about making halftime adjustments. I've worked very hard on being a consistent official. If coaches take the time during the break to change their game, and then I go and change my game, they have reason to be frustrated by not knowing what to expect from the officials.
I think it's fair for officials to recognize at halftime the changes that the teams are making. Even this past weekend, my P and I discussed how the teams were changing their games based on the time left in the game and the score. Regional playoffs can make teams play very fundamental basketball. |
I have no problem with officials making adjustments. I know it is common that officials discuss the events of the first half and then address those issues in the second half. For example, are we seeing screens and we might talk about making sure we call some things early or make sure we are not missing many illegal screens, hand checking or other things that were common in the first half.
But having said all of that, this does not mean what was witnessed was an adjustment by the officials. I also do not feel you sacrifice consistency because you decide to address things in a different half or even quarter. |
advantage/disadvantage
In rugby we take the advantage-disadvantage principle to extreme...for example, if defense (white) commits an infraction against offense (black), offense is allowed to continue play until the official deems that any advantage they may have had before the penalty was reversed by the defensive players mistake. Retention of advantage may be yardage gained, completion of pass(es), etc. and can be somewhat subjective. If no advantage is lost, then no whistle. Official announces on field 'advantage black' when the infraction is commited. The announcement is not always heard from the sidelines so to the typical observer this indeed looks like a 'rule-less' game, but in fact this concept ensures good game flow with very few interruptions.
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...one real difference between calling rugby and BB, then, is that when you see an infraction/foul you blow the play dead more often than not, while we won't stop play if the offended team can take advantage of the infraction...only if they fail to do so, by failing to gain yardage or complete their play (and this is where the referee's subjectivity comes into effect), do we blow the whistle. This is the case for all but a very few violations of rugby law.
What sometimes confuses me about BB officiating is the consistent application of advantage-disadvantage. In soem games I see things like hand checks with no displacement and (to my eyes) no change in advantage being called. I see this and think "Huh? that wasn't much..." and wonder why it was called in this game and not in another (this isn't a criticism by any means...)...this is admittedly maybe my bias because law violations in rugby are more black and white. |
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Back to the OP, I'm not one for adjusting at half-time. When I'm the R and when I'm with my regular crew, we talk about calling our game and it is the players' job to adjust.
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...you're right about the great unwashed (most casual fans of the game, 99.9% of parents in the stands, and unfortunately many of the players) not knowing the intracacies of BB rules (I hardly ever see you folks calling 'over-the-back' and 'reach-in' fouls ;) what's up with that?). BTW, we're really drifting away from the OP, but I appreciate this conversation. Just yesterday I met with HS BV and GV coaches and suggested to them that at the beginning of next preseason they wrangle a BB official to give a chalk-talk of the rules.
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I see it much more helpful in football because there are some real myths out there that are harder to explain. Peace |
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If we decide that it is a foul or violation, we call it immediately. If we decide it isn't, we naturally don't call anything. |
JR...I understood the earlier explanation. The difference is that when we see a clear violation (with some exceptions) we DON'T call it immediately...rather, we wait to see if the offended team can 'do something with it' and if they fail, THEN we blow the whistle. For example, in BB I sometimes see a player make a FG but because of a foul that occurs slightly before the shooting motion begins the whistle blows, the basket is negated, and the player is awarded FT attempts. In rugby, the whistle would be delayed and if the basket is made...play on...if the shot is missed...stop the play.
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good point and also the coach may get a look at the stat sheet and see how many fouls his players have and use the halftime speech to make a point to tell his kids to stop fouling sometimes teams just come out guns blazing in the first half and merely settle down in the second half I often think the reffs get too much blame and too much credit |
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I loved to ask the officials what they saw there and I loved it when they said "coach that's not my call" I would always reply "next time it happens can it be my call? cause I will make it" now that I am on the other side with a whistle, I have made a personal vow to never utter that statement to a coach. I prefer to rely on "coach, I didnt see it, but I'll keep a look out for next time" :D |
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I'm trying not to be judgmental, but I find it odd (not necessarily 'bad') that so many of you don't make adjustments during the game at at half time with your partner(s). In rugby, the level of play, level of control, level of athleticism, etc. can be vastly different from age-to-age, boys games-vs-girls games, new team-vs-experienced team, etc. Sometimes I might begin a game refereeing at the 'wrong level', requiring me to make some adjustments upwards or downwards. Reading this, you BB folks might rightly respond to this by saying 'then the kids don't know what to expect'...but this is mitigated by the fact that a good (IMO) rugby ref always informs players, even at the pro level, of impending infractions...you'll often hear a ref saying things like '...your coming in offsides #11...' or '...hands out of the ruck #4...'. Is this kind of preemptive talk practiced in BB? some of you do and some don't? Bad idea?
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Rookie Pregame
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Ball-Handler / Hand-Checking Two hands on the ball-handler is a foul. Automatic. One hand that stays on the dribbler is a foul. Remember RSBQ. If the dribbler’s Rythym, Speed, Balance, or Quickness are affected, we should have a hand-checking foul. |
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Rarely will I make major adjustments at halftime. I start the game with a basic game plan and an attitude of letting the game come to me. Any necessary adjustments are usually made within the first few minutes of play. After that, my goal is to keep it consistent right on through to the end of the game. My basic game plan has been refined over the years to incorporate the many hard-learned lessons of the "if we had done such-and-such earlier, this wouldn't have happened" variety. That usually precludes the need to make major changes at halftime. |
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