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Old Sat Mar 01, 2008, 05:42pm
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M&M...What a discussion!!! Lets just agree to disagree...I just don't think that the rule book will allow you to go back and penalize a excessive T/O request made before the final horn, after the horn went off, either with/without a whistle after the horn.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 10:36am
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M&M...What a discussion!!! Lets just agree to disagree...I just don't think that the rule book will allow you to go back and penalize a excessive T/O request made before the final horn, after the horn went off, either with/without a whistle after the horn.
Apparently the Big Sky disagrees with you.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 07:55pm
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Apparently the Big Sky disagrees with you.
Apparently your clueless about what you can actually go to the monitor for!!! They should've went to the monitor to see if when the WHISTLE was blown that there was TIME still on the clock. If there was then they should've granted the T/O and added the appropriate time on the clock, assessed the "T" and shot the throws.

Just a suggestion...read the OP!
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 08:01pm
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Apparently your clueless about what you can actually go to the monitor for!!!
Seeing that Brad is a D1 official, I kinda doubt that's true.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 10:51pm
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Timing under Rule 2.

Art 2. Officials may use such available equipment only in the following situations:
c. Timing
3. Determine the correct time to be placed back on the game clock when the referee blows the whistle, signals for the game clock to be stopped, and in his/her judgement time has elapsed before the game clock stopped.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 11:31pm
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Apparently your clueless about what you can actually go to the monitor for!!! They should've went to the monitor to see if when the WHISTLE was blown that there was TIME still on the clock. If there was then they should've granted the T/O and added the appropriate time on the clock, assessed the "T" and shot the throws.
That's correct, but doesn't seem to agree with what you wrote earlier...

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I just don't think that the rule book will allow you to go back and penalize a excessive T/O request made before the final horn, after the horn went off, either with/without a whistle after the horn.
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Old Tue Mar 04, 2008, 07:36am
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That's correct, but doesn't seem to agree with what you wrote earlier...

Good catch, I thought the same thing. Maybe Gimlet will come back and say what he really thinks.
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Old Tue Mar 04, 2008, 07:52am
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That's correct, but doesn't seem to agree with what you wrote earlier...
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I just don't think that the rule book will allow you to go back and penalize a excessive T/O request made before the final horn, after the horn went off, either with/without a whistle after the horn..
That's perfectly clear to me and completely different from why the Big Sky suspended their officials, and I agree with Gim's statement.
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Old Tue Mar 04, 2008, 10:12am
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That's correct, but doesn't seem to agree with what you wrote earlier...
I'll clarify.

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I just don't think that the rule book will allow you to go back and penalize a excessive T/O request made before the final horn, after the horn went off, either with/without a whistle after the horn.
You can't go back and penalize an excessive T/O request that was made before the horn went off, after the horn goes off ,if you either blew your whistle after the horn or never blew it @ all. In order to get the excessive T/O "T" the whistle would've had to be sounded before triple 0's on the clock in order to assess the penalty and add time.

M&M seemed to say that as long as you heard the request and "mentally" granted it before the horn, that you could go back after the horn and penalize the excessive T/O with a "T" even though you might not have sounded your whistle @ all. He seemed to assert that as soon as you "mentally" granted the T/O that the ball was dead. I disagreed, thus the reason for the above quoted post.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 11:32pm
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Just a suggestion...read the OP!
Oh ... and I did read the OP, but if you think I read all 6 pages of what followed you would be wrong
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Old Tue Mar 04, 2008, 10:15am
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Oh ... and I did read the OP, but if you think I read all 6 pages of what followed you would be wrong
6 pages...too much..I agree. However if you would've had the time to read the novel then the context of the in question post would've been some what clearer.
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