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It seems to me that we're talking about 2 different things here. My statement is people get hired for a variety of reasons. I stand by my statement. I know it to be true. My internet gut is you want to pigeonhole me into the argument " that all black refs got hired because of their race." I never said that, I don't believe that. Now I could be wrong about my internet gut but I don't know cause you haven't really said what your issue is with what I said. I'm starting to feel like a dog chasing his own tail..:cool: |
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Tomegun didn't want this thread to head on the down-ward spiral that usually occurs when race (like gender) is brought up in this forum. Me, I believe race sometimes plays a subtle role in the decision-making process. (notice I'm not saying in favor or against any particular race; and notice I said "sometimes") But everyone has their own perceptions and no one's mind is going to be changed arguing back-and-forth in this forum. The history of locked threads will prove me right on that point. BTW, Jamie Luckie is White...but he has many Black friends. :D |
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M&M seemed to say that as long as you heard the request and "mentally" granted it before the horn, that you could go back after the horn and penalize the excessive T/O with a "T" even though you might not have sounded your whistle @ all. He seemed to assert that as soon as you "mentally" granted the T/O that the ball was dead. I disagreed, thus the reason for the above quoted post. |
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Race was only 1 of 6 reasons that I mentioned. Oh well there is the Girls Ball versus Boys ball thread going on.;) |
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I mentioned Jamie because I know him (he is one of my references), I think he is one of the best officials in college and...he was on TV at the time I posted. :D For me this shouldn't be about race; I'm a black official, but if someone can officiate I will give them credit no matter what color. I have a lot of white friends - I say that as a joke! |
OK - that's about enough on this topic.
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