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mu4scott Fri Feb 22, 2008 05:26pm

Throw in question.
 
A1 is inbounding the ball and B1 is facing her on the throw in. After the ball is administered to A1 for the throw in B1 starts to count out loud. She's not screaming just calmly counting out loud.

Legal or illegal?

Jurassic Referee Fri Feb 22, 2008 05:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mu4scott
A1 is inbounding the ball and B1 is facing her on the throw in. After the ball is administered to A1 for the throw in B1 starts to count out loud. She's not screaming just calmly counting out loud.

Legal or illegal?

If the defender is trying to do your job for you by calling out the seconds for a 5-second violation, warn her to STFU. Tell her that she plays and you officiate.

Ch1town Fri Feb 22, 2008 05:39pm

mu4scott - I think it all depends on her reason for the verbal count. When she gets to five is she wanting you to call the violation or does she continue to count past five to rush the thrower into a bad throw?

If she is attempting to "assist" you in your five second count, I believe that is unsporting. I would probably let her &/or her coach know that is not appropriate & any further related action will be penalized accordingly.

Just my opinion though...

mu4scott Fri Feb 22, 2008 05:42pm

I agree and that's what I did. Except I said STFU *****. :)

Her response to me is that her coach teaches them to do this to alert her fellow team members that when the count gets to four the ball is going to be coming out.

I tell her she's still not going to do it, but I don't know that it's illegal.

mu4scott Fri Feb 22, 2008 05:43pm

She's is not doing any of this in an unsportsmanlike manor. A very calm count loud enough for her players to hear.

Ch1town Fri Feb 22, 2008 05:50pm

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Originally Posted by mu4scott
I agree and that's what I did. Except I said STFU *****. :)
WHOA

I tell her she's still not going to do it, but I don't know that it's illegal.

Don't have my book with me but I'm sure attempting to influence an officials decision is an unsporting act.
Penalty: 2 FTs & the ball at half court opposite the table for the offended.

Mark Padgett Fri Feb 22, 2008 06:22pm

Tell her coach that every time she yells out numbers, you lose track of your five-second count and have to start over. ;)

Jurassic Referee Fri Feb 22, 2008 06:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch1town
Don't have my book with me but I'm sure attempting to influence an officials decision is an unsporting act.
Penalty: 2 FTs & the ball at half court opposite the table for the offended.

Correct. Rule 10-4-1(b).

Nip it! Nip it in the bud!


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