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NBA blarge
SportsCenter just showed that the refs had a blarge in the Celtics/Warriors game.
They apparently went with a block as 2 FTs were awarded. I don't know the NBA rule. |
NBA rule 4-19-3...<i>"When officials make conflicting calls in a block/charge situation, the foul shall always be charged to the player that has the lower <b>STAR</b> rating."</i>
It's true, it's true....... |
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BTW, the collision happened right in front of the basket but outside the "block/charge" arc (or whatever they call it). Lead had a Charge, C came in with a block. |
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It's true, it's true..... |
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My original reaction when I saw the hilights was "Charge" and a great call by the Lead.
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Rule 12-B, Section VI:
f. If a double foul occurs as a result of a difference in opinion by the officials, no points can be scored and play shall resume with a jump ball at the center circle between any two opponents in the game at that time. No substitute may participate in the jump ball. |
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I can't imagine having to referee a play like that and also having to look at his feet to see if he is on the line. :eek: |
Anyone find a YouTube link?
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Definitely was a block, but by rule, they administered it incorrectly.
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great call by Mike Callahan. Defenders Right heel was in the restricted area. This is not a blarge. If an official is ruling on a play just on the basis that a block/charge is involving the restricted area and the restricted area alone the other officials may come to the official who made the call and give extra information. For example, if Lead has an offensive foul and it WAS an RA play, and the slot sees that his heel was raised but over the RA line then he may come to the lead and say, "John, I have white #42 with his heels raised in the RA, it should be a block." There is rarely, if ever, any debate. The Lead changes the call and awards the free throws.
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The same should happen in our Fed games if a player taking a charge was standing on the OOB line and two conflicting signals happen. If one officials shares with the other that B was OOB, then by rule you have a block. Now, if the PC official's judgment remains that B was IB, then I think you have to go with the DF. That NBA crew looked great getting the call correct. |
Its good to know that the Professionals have blarges as well!!!! All year, I have been working on no prelims...and it has kept me out of trouble several times.:)
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I wish they would just get rid of that arc because the NBA referees should be good enough to call it correctly without the line there.
Also, I think the line is a defensive disadvantage because it is like having a virtual screen set if you want to get a legal guarding position. |
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This is an old topic that I hesitate to raise...but....not necessarily. B1 only gives up LGP by being OOB. They don't get automatically pegged with a foul. If they were moving, jumping, etc., they get the foul. If they were there in a manner where LGP was not a factor, they don't necessarily get the foul. The rule ONLY says that a player can't have LGP while OOB...nothing more. All the case plays addressing the issue make one important implication...that the defender was acvtively guarding the opponent. And by actively guarding, I mean moving in an attempt to maintain position but stepping OOB in the process. The defender gets the foul because the were OOB since the actions they were engaged in required LGP to be legal. Much like a player stationary in the lane with their back to a dribble/drive who doesn't have LGP, the player who is OOB can still be fouled in the right circumstances; the offensive player can commit a foul that is not a charge, but a push, hold, illegal use of hands, etc. None of those are impacted by LGP and, as a result, have no dependancy on being inbounds or OOB. |
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As All Heart mentioned, the purpose of the arc is to prevent "cheap" charges being picked up by secondary defenders. The NBA philosophy is that if you are that close to the basket, you're not really playing defense; you're only there to try and draw a charge. They don't mind having offensive fouls, but they don't want people taking a position with the sole purpose of drawing the offensive foul. |
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The NBA......fantaaaaastic...... |
The NBA rules have made it to the stands of high school gyms all around us. I was working my last game of the season two weeks ago, when we had a charge about where the semi-cirlce would be on a NBA court.
Same fan, in the same seat, every year I've been there, yells out "How is that a charge, he was too far under the basket?!" We have a load of subs coming in and he asks "Isn't therea rule about that?" "only in the NBA" i say. he replies "kind of like traveling isn't in there rule book but its in the HS one?" "yeah, kind of like that." I smile and we go on. |
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Jurassic, There is help defense. All our RA plays involve secondary defenders. Primary defenders don't have to be outside the RA to take a charge. We just don't want guys running in there and undercuting guys like they do in college. Its a safety thing and an opening up the lane thing like you said. What's wrong with opening up the lane for more scoring? What would you rather watch and referee, a game in the 50s or in the 90s? |
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2) I'd rather watch <b>any</b> game at <b>any</b> level from <b>any</b> time period than the current doo-doo that they're playing (supposedly) in to-day's NBA. The NBA is unwatchable imo. |
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I love help side defense. Nothing is better than seeing a defensive player stop somebody from going into the lane for an easy layup by getting pounded by the guy driving to the basket and then seeing the ref wave off the basket and point the other way.
Back in the day when I was playing HS ball, I took a charge and prevented this guy from dunking and he was so pissed he wanted to fight me and he got ejected. |
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