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MidMadness Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:37am

Throw in-Backboard
 
Team A has a throw in under their own basket...A1 throws the ball in...It hits the side of the backboard??? under the backboard?? and the back of the backboard??? What do you have on all 3???

JugglingReferee Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:44am

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Originally Posted by MidMadness
Team A has a throw in under their own basket...A1 throws the ball in...It hits the side of the backboard??? under the backboard?? and the back of the backboard??? What do you have on all 3???

Nada.

Nada.

Violation.

grunewar Mon Feb 18, 2008 02:12pm

And, as happened to me last year, if it hits the net or the underside of the rim you still have nada.

MOFFICIAL Mon Feb 18, 2008 02:24pm

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Originally Posted by MidMadness
Team A has a throw in under their own basket...A1 throws the ball in...It hits the side of the backboard??? under the backboard?? and the back of the backboard??? What do you have on all 3???

I had a situation where the ball was thrown in and it hit the bottom of the back board and went in play. I erroneously called a violation and my observer gave me a pointer besides my lack of knowledge on the rule.. it was that if you question whether the ball hit the back, side or edge if the ball caroms into play it probably hit the bottom or the side so in that case you have nada.:)

Coltdoggs Mon Feb 18, 2008 03:35pm

Man, if they hit all three sides on one throw in, you got some talented ball players there! :rolleyes:

mick Mon Feb 18, 2008 03:39pm

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Originally Posted by Coltdoggs
Man, if they hit all three sides on one throw in, you got some talented ball players there! :rolleyes:

...Or too much air. :)

BillyMac Mon Feb 18, 2008 07:11pm

Another Myth Bites The Dust ....
 
The front, top, sides, and bottom of the backboard are all in play. The ball cannot pass over a rectangular backboard from either direction. The back of a backboard is out of bounds as well as the supporting structures.

From MOFFICIAL: "If you question whether the ball hit the back, side or edge. If the ball caroms into play it probably hit the bottom or the side so in that case you have nada."

I've heard the same advice. As the lead were not used to looking up, on a throw in, or as we're watching our primary during a regular offiensive possession, so it's hard to spot this violation, and we're probably not going to get any help from our partner, the trail, who has better things to do than watch the thowin.

Veterans. Is this good advice?

BktBallRef Mon Feb 18, 2008 09:45pm

If you're wide enough at Lead, there's no reason you can't see the ball hit a support in some situations.

Back In The Saddle Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:53pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac
The front, top, sides, and bottom of the backboard are all in play. The ball cannot pass over a rectangular backboard from either direction. The back of a backboard is out of bounds as well as the supporting structures.

From MOFFICIAL: "If you question whether the ball hit the back, side or edge. If the ball caroms into play it probably hit the bottom or the side so in that case you have nada."

I've heard the same advice. As the lead were not used to looking up, on a throw in, or as we're watching our primary during a regular offiensive possession, so it's hard to spot this violation, and we're probably not going to get any help from our partner, the trail, who has better things to do than watch the thowin.

Veterans. Is this good advice?

We've got a lot of things to watch when we're administering a throw-in. One of them is when the ball is first touched, so we can chop the clock. So we absolutely must be aware of where the ball is all along its path as it's thrown in, and aware of what is near it. If it's near the backboard, we probably ought to have an eye on it in much the same way that we would have an eye on any player that was near enough to touch the throw-in pass.

Just my $0.02

Camron Rust Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:44pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac
From MOFFICIAL: "If you question whether the ball hit the back, side or edge. If the ball caroms into play it probably hit the bottom or the side so in that case you have nada."

I've heard the same advice. .....Veterans. Is this good advice?

Yes it is....it is based on physics.

In general, you can use the following rules of thumb...

If the ball started on the left side of the backboard and stayed on the left side of the backboard, it hit the left side of the backboard.

If the ball started on the back side of the backboard and stayed on the back side of the backboard, it hit the back side of the backboard.

M&M Guy Tue Feb 19, 2008 09:39am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Yes it is....it is based on physics.

In general, you can use the following rules of thumb...

If the ball started on the left side of the backboard and stayed on the left side of the backboard, it hit the left side of the backboard.

If the ball started on the back side of the backboard and stayed on the back side of the backboard, it hit the back side of the backboard.

Hmm...if the ball started below the backboard, and ended up below the backboard, it could have still hit the top of the backboard.

I never was any good at physics.

Camron Rust Tue Feb 19, 2008 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Hmm...if the ball started below the backboard, and ended up below the backboard, it could have still hit the top of the backboard.

I never was any good at physics.

OK, the qestion that was implied was whether the ball hit the bottom or the back. I thought it was obvious that we were not talking about a ball going over the backboard.

M&M Guy Tue Feb 19, 2008 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
OK, the qestion that was implied was whether the ball hit the bottom or the back. I thought it was obvious that we were not talking about a ball going over the backboard.

I know, I was just yankin' your lanyard. :)

I may not have been very good at physics, but I've been told I'm very good at being a smart-a$$.

BillyMac Tue Feb 19, 2008 07:49pm

Physics ....
 
Photo below of Camron Rust:

http://re3.mm-a5.yimg.com/image/3341870270

If anyone understands this joke, you're definitely as old, or older than me:

I took physics in high school. They made me go to the bathroom.


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