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Old Sun Feb 17, 2008, 09:49pm
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I would have told him the consequences too.....

Of course, I've been chastised on this board before as I also have told Rec and younger coaches when they are out of time outs and to watch the intentional fouls at the end of the game......
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 10:46am
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I would have told him the consequences too.....

Of course, I've been chastised on this board before as I also have told Rec and younger coaches when they are out of time outs and to watch the intentional fouls at the end of the game......
Someone on this forum said it is not our responsibility to inform a coach when his/her team is out of time-outs?
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 10:51am
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Someone on this forum said it is not our responsibility to inform a coach when his/her team is out of time-outs?
Coaching box warnings are not our responsibility either. But, hey, why not?
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 11:26am
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Preventative Officiating

Why not tell the coach where there are with Timeouts? Why not warn him that the clock won't start, but it is an intentional foul?

We are taught to use preventative officiating from the earliest lessons. If I'm aware that an infraction is about to happen, and it can be prevented, I do something about it. Obviously I can't stop a player from fouling, and I can't stop the player from stepping out of bounds. But I can remind players in the lane to keep moving, and I can remind players to keep their hands off, and I can remind players to wait for the ball to hit before entering the lane on a rebound attempt. Why not do it?

The only thing I keep in mind is that I warn both coaches when they are low or out of timeouts. I don't play favorites. Both teams are entitled to the information if I've got it.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 11:30am
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Why wouldn't he just have a player hold one of the cutters trying to get open for the inbounds pass?

I would say something to him. I look for the clean end of the stick when working and not saying anything guarantees me getting the poopy end.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 01:34pm
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I would be sure to tell the coach the consequence of fouling a player making a throw-in. I think this is something we can do to make the game better. We certainly aren't obligated to do so as part of our duties. If we can avoid any T's the game will be better for it.


By rule, isn't fouling a thrower-in a technical foul, not an intentional foul?
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 01:49pm
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By rule, isn't fouling a thrower-in a technical foul, not an intentional foul?
Tio,
Check out Case 10.3.11 Situation C.
It shows *they* want an intentional called because the defender went out of his way to do it.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 01:50pm
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I would be sure to tell the coach the consequence of fouling a player making a throw-in. I think this is something we can do to make the game better. We certainly aren't obligated to do so as part of our duties. If we can avoid any T's the game will be better for it.


By rule, isn't fouling a thrower-in a technical foul, not an intentional foul?

No, still IF, but touching the ball on the OOB side of the plane IS deemed a T.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 12:10pm
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Why not tell the coach where there are with Timeouts?
It's not a question of why not. It is our duty to do so.

NCAA rule 2-7:

Art. 15.
Notify a team and its head coach when a team takes its final
allowable charged timeout.


I can't find my FED rule book but when I do I'll quote their rule also.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 12:14pm
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It's not a question of why not. It is our duty to do so.

NCAA rule 2-7:

Art. 15. Notify a team and its head coach when a team takes its final
allowable charged timeout.

I can't find my FED rule book but when I do I'll quote their rule also.
Fed 2-11-6:

ART. 6 . . . Record the time-out information charged to each team (who and when) and notify a team and its coach, through an official, whenever that team is granted its final allotted charged time-out.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2008, 12:18pm
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Of course, I've been chastised on this board before as I also have told Rec and younger coaches when they are out of time outs and to watch the intentional fouls at the end of the game......
Naw, anybody that mighta tried to chastise you for informing a team when they were out of TO's would have also been chastised(severely) by this board for telling you to ignore a rule-->rule 2-11-6.

You follow rules. Instructing players/coaches as to existing rules is a whole 'nother matter.
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