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Tim C Sun Feb 17, 2008 06:00pm

Sadly, it even happens in Oregon
 
Melee over officiating leads to arrest of 6th-grade girls coach
Posted by The Oregonian February 17, 2008 13:27PM
Categories: Breaking News, Clackamas County

Jeffery Scott LarsenA sixth-grade girls basketball coach was arrested this morning and accused of taunting a high-school-age referee and inciting a disturbance that flooded a basketball court with angry fans.
Clackamas County sheriff's Detective Jim Strovink said Jeffery Scott Larsen, 34, of Molalla was charged with criminal trespassing of a sporting event, a misdemeanor.

Deputies were called to the Estacada High School gym at noon Saturday after reports of a disturbance over officiating of a sixth-grade girls basketball game between teams from Estacada and Molalla. According to police reports, the incident began with spectators who were unhappy with the game's officiating.

Strovink said Deputy Brian Pearson reported that the disturbance began when Larsen, the Molalla team's coach, received two technical fouls and was ejected from the game. Pearson said Larsen remained in the building and verbally harassed the game's 17-year-old referee, an Estacada High student. After the game ended the deputy's report said Larsen threatened the referee physically and directed a profane attack at the boy.

Strovink offered this description of events in an e-mail:

Detailed information received at the scene reveals Coach Jeffery Scott Larsen received his first technical foul during the first-half of the game, while he became excessively argumentative when objecting to a foul called on one of his players.
The second technical foul was instituted at the beginning of the 2nd half -- with a resulting ejection from the game -- when Coach Larsen became increasingly angry at the officiating and hastily slammed his clipboard down on a 6th grade girls hand, who was positioned at a courtside table acting as the designated scorekeeper. This young girl sustained a cut to her hand, not requiring sutures or medical attention.

Additional information received indicates Coach Larsen failed to leave the arena when ejected -- as prescribed by law -- opting to stand in a corner of the hall, continuing to yell at the officiating, and continuing to coach his players from a corner of the gym. It was during this point in time, when the Molalla fans became more immersed in the taunting of the referee, and the electrified fan hostility continued to escalate with time. This antagonism was carried onto the floor at the end of the game when both the Estacada and Molalla fans swarmed the floor verbally facing-off against each other. No physical injuries were reported.

At the conclusion of the game, witnesses report Coach Larsen advanced rapidly onto the basketball court while grabbing the arm of referee Houston Webb, and menacingly cocked his arm back with a clenched fist.



Strovink said Larsen was arrested this morning after being questioned at his Molalla home. He was cited and released from the Clackamas County Jail.

Strovink said Estacada Junior High School principal Kevin Olds was coaching the Estacada girls team at the game. Strovink said Olds told him that about 75 parents and children witnessed the melee.

"Many of the girls were frightened, crying and fleeing the building with their parents," Strovink quoted Olds as saying.

Jurassic Referee Sun Feb 17, 2008 06:08pm

Sad.

Just sad.

Sixth grade girls and a 17 year old referee.......

Sad.

26 Year Gap Sun Feb 17, 2008 06:09pm

Let's hope Houston Webb & his parents press assault charges on this dolt. Hopefully, this guy has been banned from coaching. And hopefully, he will have to dole out a bunch of cash as restitution. And tar & feathers and the stocks would be a good idea, too. And,...

Kelvin green Sun Feb 17, 2008 06:20pm

Lesson...

Coach does not want to leave. The game is over and I will...

tjones1 Sun Feb 17, 2008 06:25pm

Sad.

Hopefully justice will prevail.

robertclasalle Sun Feb 17, 2008 07:14pm

Please don't misunderstand me, but...
 
Jurassic Referee uses the word "sad" repeatedly, and he is more than correct. "Disgusting" is even a better word, but JR is more forgiving than me. No offense to the 17 year old official, who was no doubt intimidated by an "adult," (I have a 17 year old daughter) and I assume this young official is still innocent and trusting in the behavior of those of us who should know better, but if I'm working that game, I put 60 seconds on the clock for the coach to leave, then the game is over, and I send a report to my IAABO Board. I'm married to a school principal, she read this post and said her coach would be history and her school sports program would be history until the involved parents wrote letters of apology to the official. Let the parents go home and explain their deplorable behavior to their kids, who, let's not forget, are the beneficiaries and the victims of all this. Enough is enough with this BS, IMHO.

JugglingReferee Sun Feb 17, 2008 08:42pm

Unbelieveable!
 
Some links via Google:

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index...g_leads_t.html

http://www.katu.com/news/local/15717777.html
Quote:

At the same time, a Molalla assistant coach, 32-year-old James Robert Ulin, reportedly shoved the Estacada coach, 47-year-old Kevin Olds, who came out to defend the referee. Olds is also the principal of Estacada Junior High.
http://www.clackamasreview.com/news/...28504677492500


This is the guy... what a huge piece of work:

http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingn...ll_jlarsen.jpg

Forksref Sun Feb 17, 2008 09:32pm

So where was the game management?? AD or Principal?? A 17 yr old official working alone?? The school has at least some blame for this incident in the way the game was managed.

I hope the official doesn't quit.

TimTaylor Sun Feb 17, 2008 09:34pm

Glad to see that CCSO followed through & arrested this jerk.

If the account given in the news reports is correct, hopefully the investigation will result in him being charged under Oregon's statutes governing assault against a sports official.

BktBallRef Sun Feb 17, 2008 09:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertclasalle
Jurassic Referee uses the word "sad" repeatedly, and he is more than correct. "Disgusting" is even a better word, but JR is more forgiving than me. No offense to the 17 year old official, who was no doubt intimidated by an "adult," (I have a 17 year old daughter) and I assume this young official is still innocent and trusting in the behavior of those of us who should know better, but if I'm working that game, I put 60 seconds on the clock for the coach to leave, then the game is over, and I send a report to my IAABO Board. I'm married to a school principal, she read this post and said her coach would be history and her school sports program would be history until the involved parents wrote letters of apology to the official. Let the parents go home and explain their deplorable behavior to their kids, who, let's not forget, are the beneficiaries and the victims of all this. Enough is enough with this BS, IMHO.

#1, I doubt seriously that Jurassic Referee is more forgiving than you.

#2, 17 y/o referees are not as equipped as you and don't know/understand how to handle such situaitons.

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forksref
The school has at least some blame for this incident in the way the game was managed.

No, the school has absolutely no connection with this at all. Middle schools around here do not have teams. The teams are run by non-profit community organizations who just rent the gyms from the schools. These organizations carry their own insurance and their contracts with the school districts absolves the districts from any responsibility, unless the venue is at fault in case of an accident, the same way any building you rent for any use must at least be in decent condition for the purpose for which it is intended.

Since this had nothing to do with the condition of the building, the school is not involved at all.

I don't know what the referee situation is in Molalla, but in my town, there's no way a 17 year old will be working a game alone - not even a 3rd grade game. We have HS kids as refs, but they are always paired with a more experienced official. Even if there's an emergency, such as the experienced ref not showing or getting sick, we have back-up plans.

BTW - under Oregon law, this kid should be able to recover between $500 and $1000 from this jerk for grabbing his arm and making a threatening gesture.

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:56pm

clarification
 
In this morning's Oregonian newspaper, the story said there were, in fact, two referees at this game, although both were HS students.

rockyroad Mon Feb 18, 2008 01:06pm

The tv reports this morning said that when the coach came back on the court and grabbed the official, he had to PUT DOWN his three year old child in order to draw back his fist and threaten to hit the official!! This a$$-hole had his little kid in his arms when he did all this!! Currently the jerk is being charged with Criminal Trespass for not leaving the gym as he was supposed to do - and the investigation is continuing and the report is supposed to be given to the Prosecutor's office by Wednesday.

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 18, 2008 01:12pm

This guy needs to be taken out back and, well, you know. :mad:

Tio Mon Feb 18, 2008 01:24pm

Loser.

rainmaker Mon Feb 18, 2008 02:53pm

Here's a link to the Oregonian website, and their comment page for this story.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingn....html#comments

Mostly anti-bad-guy.

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 18, 2008 04:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainmaker
Here's a link to the Oregonian website, and their comment page for this story.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingn....html#comments

Mostly anti-bad-guy.

Be sure to read my comments on this blog. My user name should be obvious to you guys. ;)

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Feb 18, 2008 04:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Be sure to read my comments on this blog. My user name should be obvious to you guys. ;)


Mark:

weaselpants??? ROFLMAO

MTD, Sr.

TimTaylor Mon Feb 18, 2008 04:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Mark:

weaselpants??? ROFLMAO

MTD, Sr.

Took the words right out of my mouth Mark!

ref2coach Mon Feb 18, 2008 06:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Mark:

weaselpants??? ROFLMAO

MTD, Sr.

Why was it not "pukeshoes" or "IPukeOnYourShoes" ??? ;)

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 18, 2008 09:13pm

In my town, I'm known by the following names (among others):

Skippy Weaselpants
Paddy O'Furniture
Bob Alou
Jubilation T. Cornpone
Mike Rophone

Whenever I attend local Chamber of Commerce networking events, I put a different name on my name tag. People know this and come up to me just to see what name I'm using that day. It's a real icebreaker and I make lots of contacts that way.

isualum12 Tue Feb 19, 2008 05:11pm

the best reply in all of the comments
 
on the newspapers page was.....


"Whats the problem? The ref missed an obvious travel and this cost Molalla a chance for the playoffs.

This article fails to mention if they covered the spread. (I actually took Estacada straight up so they payout was 3-1. Huge upset. I had the inside tip that Molalla's power forward had the flu.)

Inappropriate? Alert us. Post a comment"


Classic....

Tim C Tue Feb 19, 2008 06:32pm

Sadly:
 
For those of us in Oregon that hoped this situation would go to court we had a terrible set back.

The young man officiating the game was himself ejected from a high school game on Friday night. He received two techincals for swearing at opponets.

This will, of course, be used against him as this works through the court system.

Phones were buzzing all over today with the media trying to find "expert" commentary on the situation.

Regards,

deecee Tue Feb 19, 2008 06:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
For those of us in Oregon that hoped this situation would go to court we had a terrible set back.

The young man officiating the game was himself ejected from a high school game on Friday night. He received two techincals for swearing at opponets.

This will, of course, be used against him as this works through the court system.

Phones were buzzing all over today with the media trying to find "expert" commentary on the situation.

Regards,

If this is true then this is IRONY at its finest........ahhhhhh lol, I am sorry but I find this absolutely funny.

Tim C Tue Feb 19, 2008 07:22pm

Hmmm,
 
"If this is true . . . "

Why would I post it if it wasn't true.

I was in the OSAA offices today and was standing next to the person taking the report of the ejection report from the Commissioner of the Portland Basketball Officials Association.

Regards,

Mark Padgett Tue Feb 19, 2008 07:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
Phones were buzzing all over today with the media trying to find "expert" commentary on the situation.

They should have called me. When the bill was originally in committee, I represented NASO and testified down in Salem to help get it passed. In fact, I carry a copy of the state statute in my gym bag in case I ever have to invoke it at a game.

TheOracle Tue Feb 19, 2008 09:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
They should have called me. When the bill was originally in committee, I represented NASO and testified down in Salem to help get it passed. In fact, I carry a copy of the state statute in my gym bag in case I ever have to invoke it at a game.

Mark, wouldn't you just leave before anything ever got near the point where you had to pull the statute out? I still have a really hard time understanding how things could escalate to that point.

Mark Padgett Tue Feb 19, 2008 09:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOracle
Mark, wouldn't you just leave before anything ever got near the point where you had to pull the statute out? I still have a really hard time understanding how things could escalate to that point.

It's in case I have to tell someone they have to leave and they refuse. I will then tell them that if they don't leave immediately, I will call the police and have them arrested for trespassing and use the copy of the statute to show them I can do that.

So far, I haven't really thrown that many people out and I've never had anyone refuse to leave.

TimTaylor Wed Feb 20, 2008 02:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
For those of us in Oregon that hoped this situation would go to court we had a terrible set back.

The young man officiating the game was himself ejected from a high school game on Friday night. He received two techincals for swearing at opponets.

This will, of course, be used against him as this works through the court system.

Phones were buzzing all over today with the media trying to find "expert" commentary on the situation.

Regards,

Tim,

This doesn't really have any bearing on the situation from Saturday. Bottom line is the coach was assessed two T's for unsportsmanlike conduct & DQ'd. When he either refused to leave the gym or returned after leaving, depending on which version you read, he committed criminal trespass under Oregon law. This is what he was arrested and cited for by CCSO after he was interviewed.

Unless Estacada's game Friday was against Molalla (and it wasn't, it was against North Marion), then there is no way you can possibly construe any link between the two events. Further, Estacada won the Friday game, so if there was a DQ it had no bearing on the outcome. If the Estacada player was DQ'd Friday, then he will suffer the proscribed penalty of missing the next game, which oddly enough was tonight against Molalla.

Nothing the HS kid may have allegedly done on Friday justifies the alleged actions of the MS coach:
1. Refusing to leave or returning to the gym after being DQ'd
2. Accosting an official after the game
3. Making intentional physical contact with an official

Larks Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:54am

Video Interview

http://www.kgw.com/video/index.html?nvid=219121

(thanks PM)

wizard Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larks

You're welcome! ;)

Mark Padgett Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:27pm

two clarifications
 
A column in today's Oregonian stated the kid was getting paid $10 to work the game. Oh yeah, it also said the clown coach's daughter was 4 years old, not 3. Like that makes a difference.

Mark Padgett Wed Feb 20, 2008 04:37pm

Here's a video from youtube. It doesn't reveal much but you can see this coach get a technical, I think.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ar17dyk14

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 21, 2008 05:45pm

I just checked the website that lists available games for one of the competitive rec leagues in this area (it's Camron Rust's RefTown website and it's great) and noticed there are only two unassigned games left this week that nobody's taken. Ironically, they're both middle school games in Molalla. Go figure.

Camron, be sure to spell my name correctly on your check. Thanks.

wizard Thu Feb 21, 2008 05:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
I just checked the website that lists available games for one of the competitive rec leagues in this area (it's Camron Rust's RefTown website and it's great) and noticed there are only two unassigned games left this week that nobody's taken. Ironically, they're both middle school games in Molalla. Go figure.

Camron, be sure to spell my name correctly on your check. Thanks.

I can't wait to hear how this goes!


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