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KingTripleJump Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:51pm

Jim Burr???
 
Over the last week there have been some pretty big games and Burr hasn't been in any of them. I think we can all agree that is something unusual. Is he hurt?

Rich Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:57pm

Jim Burr:

Sat 2/2 DePaul 80 Notre Dame 89

Sun 2/3 Northwestern 63 Indiana 75

Mon 2/4 Louisville 71 Marquette 57

Tue 2/5 Penn State 53 Purdue 67

Thu 2/7 Rhode Island 76 Massachusetts 78

Sat 2/9 Cincinnati 72 Rutgers 68 (OT)

Sun 2/10 Indiana 59 Ohio State 53

Tue 2/12 Providence 63 Pittsburgh 82

Wed 2/13 Louisiana State 85 Florida 73

Thu 2/14 Georgia Tech 67 Clemson 82

Sat 2/16 Minnesota 56 Wisconsin 65

KingTripleJump Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
Jim Burr:

Sat 2/2 DePaul 80 Notre Dame 89

Sun 2/3 Northwestern 63 Indiana 75

Mon 2/4 Louisville 71 Marquette 57

Tue 2/5 Penn State 53 Purdue 67

Thu 2/7 Rhode Island 76 Massachusetts 78

Sat 2/9 Cincinnati 72 Rutgers 68 (OT)

Sun 2/10 Indiana 59 Ohio State 53

Tue 2/12 Providence 63 Pittsburgh 82

Wed 2/13 Louisiana State 85 Florida 73

Thu 2/14 Georgia Tech 67 Clemson 82

Sat 2/16 Minnesota 56 Wisconsin 65



Lock thread then.

Rich Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:12pm

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Originally Posted by KingTripleJump
Lock thread then.

Just to let you know, you can get this info at bbstate.com, click on officials at the top. Without a membership you get a limited number of searches (something like 2 per day).

BktBallRef Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
Jim Burr:

Sat 2/2 DePaul 80 Notre Dame 89

Sun 2/3 Northwestern 63 Indiana 75

Mon 2/4 Louisville 71 Marquette 57

Tue 2/5 Penn State 53 Purdue 67

Thu 2/7 Rhode Island 76 Massachusetts 78

Sat 2/9 Cincinnati 72 Rutgers 68 (OT)

Sun 2/10 Indiana 59 Ohio State 53

Tue 2/12 Providence 63 Pittsburgh 82

Wed 2/13 Louisiana State 85 Florida 73

Thu 2/14 Georgia Tech 67 Clemson 82

Sat 2/16 Minnesota 56 Wisconsin 65

11 games in 15 days. Wow!

Rich Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef
11 games in 15 days. Wow!

A light schedule for Welmer, who probably worked 15 games in 15 days.

JRutledge Sun Feb 17, 2008 02:32pm

Burr is on the Ohio State-Michigan game right now.

Peace

rainmaker Sun Feb 17, 2008 02:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
Burr is on the Ohio State-Michigan game right now.

Peace

Yup. Was he the one who signalled travelling on an inbounding play??

Ugh.

Rich Sun Feb 17, 2008 03:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainmaker
Yup. Was he the one who signalled travelling on an inbounding play??

Ugh.

I love when people get all upset over this. And the big dogs will continue to do it and not really care what any of us think.

JRutledge Sun Feb 17, 2008 03:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
I love when people get all upset over this. And the big dogs will continue to do it and not really care what any of us think.

Exactly.

Peace

BktBallRef Sun Feb 17, 2008 03:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
A light schedule for Welmer, who probably worked 15 games in 15 days.

Actually, he worked 12 games in those same 15 days.

Rich Sun Feb 17, 2008 03:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Actually, he worked 12 games in those same 15 days.

I worked 9 (but 3 games were postponed due to the weather, which rarely happens at that level).

I'm amazed at how many games these guys work, but since it's all they do, it's probably easier than it seems on them.

Scrapper1 Sun Feb 17, 2008 04:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef
11 games in 15 days. Wow!

I'm in the middle of a stretch of 9 games in 11 days; but mine are high school and D3 NCAA.

BktBallRef Sun Feb 17, 2008 05:47pm

9 games in 7 days for me.

JRutledge Sun Feb 17, 2008 05:51pm

If I work more than 4 games in a seven day period, that is a lot for me. Working 3 is the norm (not including Thanksgiving and Christmas Tournaments)

Peace

mightyvol Sun Feb 17, 2008 06:44pm

I usually work 4-5 nights a week of Varsity basketball here in Minnesota. Enjoy the heck out of it, I look forward to each game because it presents new challenges each night.

BillyMac Sun Feb 17, 2008 06:56pm

Mental Toll ......
 
I officiated about 60 games so far this season, not counting scrimmages, starting in mid December. About half are boys and girls varsity high school games. The other half are Catholic middle school games. I have looked forward, and still look forward, to every game that I officiate. However, I notice that every season, about this time, mid-February, my mind starts to wander, pointing the wrong direction for out of bounds, forgeting alternating possession directions, etc. The other night I found myself reporting to the table, "Blue, Four, Block", while holding up three fingers. No physical problems, just mental lapses. Other than camps, that's why I seldom do offseason ball. I don't think that my brain can handle more than three months of officiating in a calendar year.

rainmaker Sun Feb 17, 2008 08:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I'm in the middle of a stretch of 9 games in 11 days; but mine are high school and D3 NCAA.


ALL NINE were high school and D3? That's not what I heard...

rainmaker Sun Feb 17, 2008 08:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
I love when people get all upset over this. And the big dogs will continue to do it and not really care what any of us think.

I'm not upset. When I'm upset, "Ugh" isn't how I express it. It's just that for every "travel" call in a TV game, there will be 10 more explanations needed for calls that I don't make in one of my games. Ugh.

zebraman Sun Feb 17, 2008 09:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
I love when people get all upset over this. And the big dogs will continue to do it and not really care what any of us think.

That might not be true. I'm pretty good friends with a pretty big dog. I went to one of his games recently and he incorrectly signaled travel on the thrower who violated the wide of the spot throw-in boundary. I asked him about it afterwards and he said, "what's the proper signal?" He was actually a little embarrassed (he did it because he saw another big dog do it that way long ago) and will not do it again.

Scrapper1 Tue Feb 19, 2008 09:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac
I officiated about 60 games so far this season, not counting scrimmages, starting in mid December. About half are boys and girls varsity high school games. The other half are Catholic middle school games. However, I notice that every season, about this time, mid-February, my mind starts to wander, pointing the wrong direction for out of bounds, forgeting alternating possession directions, etc.

This is the worst time for having mental lapses, since mid-February games have postseason implications. If I were having mental lapses, I would cut back on my middle-school games. If you're working a full high school varsity schedule, then the middle school games aren't helping you get better; and in fact, they're making you worse, apparently. There are guys who will benefit from working those games, so I would stop taking them, personally, and keep myself sharp for the varsity games.

Scrapper1 Tue Feb 19, 2008 09:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightyvol
I usually work 4-5 nights a week of Varsity basketball here in Minnesota.

Minnesota? As a Mighty "Vol", I had always assumed you were in Tennessee.

fullor30 Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:03am

[QUOTE=Scrapper1]This is the worst time for having mental lapses, since mid-February games have postseason implications. If I were having mental lapses, I would cut back on my middle-school games. If you're working a full high school varsity schedule, then the middle school games aren't helping you get better; and in fact, they're making you worse, apparently. There are guys who will benefit from working those games, so I would stop taking them, personally, and keep myself sharp for the varsity games.[/QUOTE


Spot on..........I've done so many games this season that my mechanics have gone to heck for varsity games the past two weeks. Had two regional games for state last week, and I've done better.

BillyMac Tue Feb 19, 2008 07:25pm

Four In A Row ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1
This is the worst time for having mental lapses, since mid-February games have postseason implications. If I were having mental lapses, I would cut back on my middle-school games. If you're working a full high school varsity schedule, then the middle school games aren't helping you get better; and in fact, they're making you worse, apparently. There are guys who will benefit from working those games, so I would stop taking them, personally, and keep myself sharp for the varsity games.

Thanks for the advice. The mental lapses come in the middle school games, usually in the last two games of a four game Saturday morning, especially if they're blow out games. I didn't mean to imply that I'm having problems concentrating with my varsity games. With very few exceptions, I only do one varsity game a day.


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