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Loudwhistle Sat Feb 16, 2008 02:22am

Visiting coach chews on Home player
 
Varisty boys tonight, I whistle a foul on the visiting team, push, we are in the bonus, shooter goes to the line and makes the first free throw, visiting coach looks up just before the ball is administered for the second free throw and says hey that's not the guy that got fouled, I say yes it is, I'm tableside. The player at the line says, yes I 'm the one that got fouled, gym gets real quiet, visiting coach says, "don't talk back to me you just play the game" I did not like the attack on the this fine player (I've know him for 17 years) any suggestions if this happens again? Felt like whacking him but didn't, don't know if that is worth a technical. Never seen that happen before. Any thoughts?

MadCityRef Sat Feb 16, 2008 03:46am

I step into the coach's face and tell him not to say anything to the opposition again. The coach (if he's of good character) should begin apologizing. If he shows no contrition, then he has a very short leash. IMO.

WhistlesAndStripes Sat Feb 16, 2008 04:44am

BEcause the player initiated the conversation between him and the coach, i probably go with MAdCityRef methodology, but I war em BOTH.

JugglingReferee Sat Feb 16, 2008 08:53am

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Originally Posted by Loudwhistle
Varisty boys tonight, I whistle a foul on the visiting team, push, we are in the bonus, shooter goes to the line and makes the first free throw, visiting coach looks up just before the ball is administered for the second free throw and says hey that's not the guy that got fouled, I say yes it is, I'm tableside. The player at the line says, yes I 'm the one that got fouled, gym gets real quiet, visiting coach says, "don't talk back to me you just play the game" I did not like the attack on the this fine player (I've know him for 17 years) any suggestions if this happens again? Felt like whacking him but didn't, don't know if that is worth a technical. Never seen that happen before. Any thoughts?

I don't let coaches address opponents unless it's to positively acknowledge a good play. The V coach is getting a talking to from me on this one, to not address the other team again. Next time is a T. And yes, I would go directly to a T in some cases, but not this one. I would also make sure to not have my personal feelings of knowing this fine player for 17 years get in the way.

Mark Dexter Sat Feb 16, 2008 09:27am

A coach bit a player? Isn't that a flagrant T? :p

Seriously, though, I'm warning both the coach and the player in this situation. Each of them keeps their talk to their own team, and we're fine for the rest of the game.

deecee Sat Feb 16, 2008 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
A coach bit a player? Isn't that a flagrant T? :p

Seriously, though, I'm warning both the coach and the player in this situation. Each of them keeps their talk to their own team, and we're fine for the rest of the game.

Why warn the player -- the coach stated his opinion that the player at the line was not the one fouled, and the player disagreed. Doesnt sound like a situation thats going to escalate. this sounds like the coach is blowing this out of proportion. Didnt sound like the kid talked back to the coach. If the coach can throw his 2 cents about who got fouled, then said kid that the coach is complaining about can at least offer the fact that it was him who did get fouled.

Mark Padgett Sat Feb 16, 2008 03:09pm

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Originally Posted by Loudwhistle
I did not like the attack on the this fine player (I've know him for 17 years)

You've known this HS player for 17 years? :confused:

Let me guess - he's played the game his whole life. :rolleyes:

BillyMac Sat Feb 16, 2008 03:22pm

News ???
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
A coach bit a player?

Let's see. Dog bites man: not news. Man bites dog: news. Coach bites player, or player bites coach: not news??? news???

Mark Padgett Sat Feb 16, 2008 03:25pm

What about when fan bites player? Is that where we get the term "rabid fan"? :p

Raymond Sat Feb 16, 2008 07:02pm

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Originally Posted by Loudwhistle
I did not like the attack on the this fine player (I've know him for 17 years) any suggestions if this happens again? Felt like whacking him but didn't, don't know if that is worth a technical. Never seen that happen before. Any thoughts?

17 years...Varsity Boys....does this make you his father or uncle?

Any thoughts? What would your course of action be if he wasn't a fine player?

Kelvin green Sat Feb 16, 2008 08:23pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
17 years...Varsity Boys....does this make you his father or uncle?
?

In some states he could be both....

Jurassic Referee Sat Feb 16, 2008 08:43pm

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Originally Posted by Kelvin green
In some states he could be both....

LOL......:D

BillyMac Sat Feb 16, 2008 09:06pm

Some States ???
 
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Originally Posted by Kelvin green
In some states he could be both....

In some states, if you divorce your wife, she still remains your sister after the divorce. But, then, I'm not a lawyer, and I don't even play one in a televison show.

Loudwhistle Sun Feb 17, 2008 03:21am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
You've known this HS player for 17 years? :confused:

Let me guess - he's played the game his whole life. :rolleyes:

He was born and raised in the town I teach and live in, had him in my class when he was in fourth grade, reffed his youth league games and now he's a senior, he's not a smart asz, all American boy who just loves to play basketball, he was actually telling me that he was the one that got fouled when the coach jumped on him. Thanks for the responses!

Rich Sun Feb 17, 2008 03:25pm

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Originally Posted by Loudwhistle
He was born and raised in the town I teach and live in, had him in my class when he was in fourth grade, reffed his youth league games and now he's a senior, he's not a smart asz, all American boy who just loves to play basketball, he was actually telling me that he was the one that got fouled when the coach jumped on him. Thanks for the responses!

He's just another player. Too much "love and affection" in your post. What if the kid was a known jerk, would that make a whit of difference in your situation? If so, then you need to step back, IMO.


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