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pizanno Mon Feb 11, 2008 07:40pm

WOW - Biggest D1 Mistake I've Seen on film CSUMB@Fresno St.
 
:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQu2Y6cudM

Anyone else see this?

How the lead missed this one, I have no idea. Trail is out of the picture, prolly why he missed the travel.

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 11, 2008 07:43pm

I agree there was definitely a missed call by the lead on the OOB. And...it looked like it was right in front of him and he was looking right at it.

ace Mon Feb 11, 2008 07:45pm

Mark took the words right out of my mouth as I was writing.

TRef21 Mon Feb 11, 2008 07:45pm

This is Old News Fella's...

WhistlesAndStripes Mon Feb 11, 2008 07:48pm

Looked like they got screwed twice. Not only on the OOB, but then the player that made the tying 3 appeared to "hop" before taking the shot -- should have been a travel call before that shot.

deecee Mon Feb 11, 2008 07:51pm

:rolleyes:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
Looked like they got screwed twice. Not only on the OOB, but then the player that made the tying 3 appeared to "hop" before taking the shot -- should have been a travel call before that shot.

Cant wait for all the "you cant call that at that point of the game" idiots to chime in.

JRutledge Mon Feb 11, 2008 08:04pm

It looked like the play blew up in his face. He was probably trying to focus on the contact and forgot to look at the feet.

That would have been a very hard travel to call live. It is really easy to slow things down and say that was a travel. The game is not called in slow motion.

Peace

Mark Padgett Mon Feb 11, 2008 08:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
It looked like the play blew up in his face. He was probably trying to focus on the contact and forgot to look at the feet.

That would have been a very hard travel to call live. It is really easy to slow things down and say that was a travel. The game is not called in slow motion.

Peace

Rut - I agree, but the OOB play should never have been missed.

Coltdoggs Mon Feb 11, 2008 08:06pm

Wow...I've missed calls before but MAN! :eek: That dude was a good 2' OOB...and the 3 point shot/hop...hell, I'm trying to teach my 7-8 year old girls how to use their legs on a jump shot and I use THAT drill! :p

TheOracle Mon Feb 11, 2008 08:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
Looked like they got screwed twice. Not only on the OOB, but then the player that made the tying 3 appeared to "hop" before taking the shot -- should have been a travel call before that shot.

He didn't hop, he shuffled. That's worse. I am sure they got pasted by the observer and assignor. Since it is a non-conference exhibition, there is probably a new guy on the crew that really hurt himself if he's the T or L.

Dan_ref Mon Feb 11, 2008 08:15pm

Yeah they missed an OOB, yeah he probably travelled on the shot. They also missed the foul on the shot so it all evens out. :)

fullor30 Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Rut - I agree, but the OOB play should never have been missed.

I'm glad my games don't wind up on youtube, that said, I'm not cashing 1000.00 game fee checks either

ace Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:54pm

If games automatically slowed down to 30% speed we'd all be 100% -- remember this is D1 ball, stuff happens faster there than it does in real time.

I can't tell you how many OOB plays like that I've screwed up because it got in my face and I was more worried about protecting myself.

ANd that travel, man - in full speed, that'd be a tough one to call.

Camron Rust Tue Feb 12, 2008 02:23am

Maybe he didn't really land OOB! Perhaps he just floated over the floor! :)

pizanno Tue Feb 12, 2008 02:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOracle
Since it is a non-conference exhibition, there is probably a new guy on the crew that really hurt himself if he's the T or L.

The crew consisted of three Pac-10 officials with about 40 years experience at the D1 level between them. I think two of them are tourney officials, if not all three.

Back In The Saddle Tue Feb 12, 2008 08:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace
remember this is D1 ball, stuff happens faster there than it does in real time.

Well, yeah. But only because they have to play a 2 hour game in about 1.5 hours with all those media timeouts. ;)

Back In The Saddle Tue Feb 12, 2008 08:46am

If you are T or C on this sequence, and you happened to be looking at the baseline during the OOB and saw the player step out by 2 feet before saving that ball, do you go and get that call? Or do you let the L live and die with it?

Coltdoggs Tue Feb 12, 2008 08:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
If you are T or C on this sequence, and you happened to be looking at the baseline during the OOB and saw the player step out by 2 feet before saving that ball, do you go and get that call? Or do you let the L live and die with it?

I think we can make an arguement that C could grab that without much fuss being put up....T, I don't know, but that was WAY OOB and I just don't see how 3 sets of eyes missed that one...

grunewar Tue Feb 12, 2008 08:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
If you are T or C on this sequence, and you happened to be looking at the baseline during the OOB and saw the player step out by 2 feet before saving that ball, do you go and get that call? Or do you let the L live and die with it?

As egregious and obvious as that was and knowing it would be on film and replayed over and over, I’d think you’ve got to go help.

Scrapper1 Tue Feb 12, 2008 09:42am

That deserves a "Wow!"

Reffing Rev. Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:22am

Travel live action I'm probably not watching his feet that closely that far behind the arc withe so many defenders that close I'm focused on the potential contact.

OOB who doesn't call that...If I'm on the floor I'm bailing out the L and if I'm L I'm thankful I got bailed out.

Mark Dexter Tue Feb 12, 2008 05:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
If you are T or C on this sequence, and you happened to be looking at the baseline during the OOB and saw the player step out by 2 feet before saving that ball, do you go and get that call? Or do you let the L live and die with it?

I always discuss with partners to call our own lines unless it's CLEARLY OOB. I feel that this counts.


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