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smmarsh12 Mon Feb 11, 2008 04:03pm

Backcourt violation per NCAA rules
 
Hey everybody,
1st post here--I have a question for everyone. I was officiating a men's league game--using NCAA rules and had a disagreement with another official. Team A had the ball in their front court and A1 attempted to make a pass to A2 who was in the backcourt. A2 left his feet while the ball was in the air and landed in the frontcourt, established himself with both feet and then caught the ball from A1, who again, was already in the frontcourt. The official I was working with called it a backcourt violation stating that "since A2 jumped in the air after the ball was already in the air, that it was a violation." I told him that my understanding of the rule was that as long as A2 established himself in the frontcourt with both feet before catching the ball, it didn't matter when he left his feet and therefore should not have been a violation.

Can anyone offer their expertise on this matter?

deecee Mon Feb 11, 2008 04:07pm

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Originally Posted by smmarsh12
Hey everybody,
1st post here--I have a question for everyone. I was officiating a men's league game--using NCAA rules and had a disagreement with another official. Team A had the ball in their front court and A1 attempted to make a pass to A2 who was in the backcourt. A2 left his feet while the ball was in the air and landed in the frontcourt, established himself with both feet and then caught the ball from A1, who again, was already in the frontcourt. The official I was working with called it a backcourt violation stating that "since A2 jumped in the air after the ball was already in the air, that it was a violation." I told him that my understanding of the rule was that as long as A2 established himself in the frontcourt with both feet before catching the ball, it didn't matter when he left his feet and therefore should not have been a violation.

Can anyone offer their expertise on this matter?

you are right -- no bc violation here - at least in High school rules. Not so sure about college, but most high school and college is the same.

Dan_ref Mon Feb 11, 2008 04:08pm

You're right he's wrong

mick Mon Feb 11, 2008 04:16pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
You're right he's wrong

Does NCAA require both feet ?

Dan_ref Mon Feb 11, 2008 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by mick
Does NCAA require both feet ?

I've never seen a player with 1 foot but I do not believe this is prohibitted by rule or policy.

(I almost said a 1 foot player but wanted to save Chuck the agony of JR's obvious response.)

truerookie Mon Feb 11, 2008 04:22pm

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Originally Posted by mick
Does NCAA require both feet ?

No!

smmarsh12 Mon Feb 11, 2008 04:30pm

re: feet
 
In this case, A2 had both feet anyway---the other official's concern was that A2 jumped in the air after the ball was in the air--and he swore this was the rule. That would require the back official to know when the ball left A1's hands and when A2 left his feet----too much for him to see. Not sure where he came up with this idea---but I'm glad you guys have helped to clarify. Does anyone know of a link that might clarify as well or something I can print off?

Jurassic Referee Mon Feb 11, 2008 05:11pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
I've never seen a player with 1 foot but I do not believe this is prohibitted by rule or policy.

(I almost said a 1 foot player but wanted to save Chuck the agony of JR's obvious response.)

Too late.....
http://www.sodamnfunny.com/Comic/Sport/tall.jpg

mick Mon Feb 11, 2008 05:58pm

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Originally Posted by smmarsh12
In this case, A2 had both feet anyway---the other official's concern was that A2 jumped in the air after the ball was in the air--and he swore this was the rule. That would require the back official to know when the ball left A1's hands and when A2 left his feet----too much for him to see. Not sure where he came up with this idea---but I'm glad you guys have helped to clarify. Does anyone know of a link that might clarify as well or something I can print off?

Finding a justification for a misinterpretation by an official is very difficult, whether the official swore, yelled, or just talked loudly.

The rules do not tell us all the things that are legal; they tell us some legal things and all the things that are not legal.

If you take a look at Rules 4-4-1 thru 7 and Case 4.4.1 Situation, you can see the ball in your case was never considered to be in the backcourt.


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