Is it Double Dribble?
a player is dribbling and stops his dribble. a team mate, seeing the need to help, puts both hands on the ball, for double possession.
can the first player resume dribbling? we called this 'giving him back his dribble' when i played in high school and was legal. issue is now as i am a coach and i use this with my 9 year olds; works well, but refs are questioning. |
Why not just have the ballhandler pass it to the other kid, and then pass it back. Just as effective, and no questions.
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The refs should be calling your kids for an illegal second dribble <b>every</b> time they try that. If they're not, you're lucky that you were assigned officials who don't know a very basic rule. |
Citations, Please ...
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Rules?
from Hicksports.com:
Double dribble - Formally known as "discontinued dribble"; the dribble ends when the dribbler catches the ball, holds it, or touches it with both hands simultaneously. Once the dribbling has stopped, the player cannot dribble again until after another player has touched the ball. (There is one exception: A player may stop dribbling, take a shot at the basket, and begin dribbling again after gaining the rebound.) from NCAA Rules: Art. 1. A player shall not dribble a second time after the player’s first dribble has ended, unless the player subsequently loses control because of: a. A try for field goal. b. A bat by an opponent. c. A pass or fumble that has then touched or been touched by another player. Neither seems to support this as illegal; and the first rule quote specifies it as legal. |
double dribble?
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Hicksport = totally irrelevant. Nice try. NCAA rules. Much better. a. Not a try b. Not a bat by opponent c. Not a pass or fumble IOW illegal. |
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Dan_ref was right to reference the NCAA rule that you posted, but I think the basic question at the beginning of this thread is answered by this part: Quote:
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Your fanboy website is clueless. Do not depend on that site for anything related to actual rulings. |
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1) An "interrupted dribble" was formerly known as a "discontinued dribble". A "discontinued dribble" was never known as a "double dribble"(the generic term for an illegal second dribble). There are completely different rules covering "discontinued(interrupted) dribbles" and "double dribbles". One is legal; one isn't. 2) Once the dribble has stopped, the player cannot dribble again unless that player <b>LOSES CONTROL</b> because of: (a) a try for field goal. (b) a touch by an opponent (c) a pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player. Note that the key words are "<b>loses</b> control". Player control is defined under the rules as holding or dribbling the ball. Merely touching the ball while a player is holding it does <b>NOT</b> cause that player to lose <b>CONTROL</b>, rules-wise. The ball has to <b>LEAVE</b> a player's hands before player control is lost. That's why it has <b>ALWAYS</b> been a violation if a player dribbles a second time as described in your original post. Stoopid websites conveying completely wrong information re: rules really don't help us officials, podner. Don't take this the wrong way, but you'll be a much better coach if you'll learn the rules instead of propagating myths. |
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Missing it, almost completely.
We are not talking about touching the ball when it is held.
TWO HANDS ON THE BALL, AND DUAL POSSESSION. |
Missing it, almost completely.
We are not talking about touching the ball when it is held.
TWO HANDS ON THE BALL, AND DUAL POSSESSION. |
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