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Mark Padgett Thu Feb 07, 2008 06:37pm

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Sheez, bgtg, what makes you think that taking the high road is something anyone respects or appreciates? Just say whatever happens to pop into your head, and the hell with anyone's feelings. THat's their own problem, not yours. Especially people who you don't like. If you want to be nice, reffing isn't for you.

That's one of the things I like about Juulie - she's got my back. Now, if I can just get her to return it 'cause it's really getting windy inside my rib cage. :p

Adam Thu Feb 07, 2008 06:46pm

I think there's some benefit to someone like this guy actually getting to taste his own medicine.

And my guess is he'll think twice before ridiculing officials in the future.

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 07, 2008 06:48pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
And my guess is he'll think twice before ridiculing officials in the future.

Thank you. I think that probably was the point. Plus, of course, having some fun.

canuckrefguy Fri Feb 08, 2008 02:03am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Sorry - my personal philosophy and yours seem to be worlds apart. I believe in:

A. What's good for the goose is good for the gander
B. An eye for an eye
C. If you can dish it out, you also have to be able to take it
D. You have to stand up to bullies
E. All of the above

Correct answer: E

Remember - appeasement didn't work for the British before WWII.

We're supposed to be above the crap.

Not saying I didn't get a chuckle out of it. Or that I haven't felt like doing that myself. But unless the guy was being relentlessly belligerent, profane, or getting personal, I don't see why being a sarcastic a$$ in return is appropriate.

BTW - it's true that appeasement didn't work, but brinkmanship was almost as disastrous 30 years later.

Scrapper1 Fri Feb 08, 2008 09:15am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
What rhymes with "sanctimonious" and sounds a little like "preachy?"

Preachamonious? :confused:

mbyron Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Sorry - my personal philosophy and yours seem to be worlds apart. I believe in:

A. What's good for the goose is good for the gander
B. An eye for an eye
C. If you can dish it out, you also have to be able to take it
D. You have to stand up to bullies
E. All of the above

Mark, I'm sure you'll want to know that the correct expression is: "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander."

Mark Padgett Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:20am

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Originally Posted by canuckrefguy
We're supposed to be above the crap.

Speak for yourself, Sparky. Some misanthrope insults me, they're gonna get it back with both barrels. In fact, in my state I am legally obligated to inform anyone who gets sarcastic with me that I am a professional with a fifth-degree black belt in sarcasm and they proceed at their own risk.

Sheesh - some of their comments tick me off almost as much as when I get my opera cape snagged on some homeless person's junk. :mad:

canuckrefguy Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:01pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Speak for yourself, Sparky. Some misanthrope insults me, they're gonna get it back with both barrels. In fact, in my state I am legally obligated to inform anyone who gets sarcastic with me that I am a professional with a fifth-degree black belt in sarcasm and they proceed at their own risk.

Okay, good for you.

I guess.

IUgrad92 Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:24pm

Thank your partner for providing a 'community service'. I'm sure the rest of the crowd was annoyed with him as well, so I bet most of them were clapping on the inside when he left.

Secondly, most fanboys like this don't even have a clue what they're doing, or how much of a spectacle they are being. A situation like this will hopefully spur a little introspection by fanboy.... Nah, probably not :)

grunewar Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by IUgrad92
Nah, probably not :)

Yeah, fanboy will be back again next week.......to continue to help us do our jobs properly. :(

Red_Killian Fri Feb 08, 2008 01:14pm

I'm mainly a lurker on this board but feel I have to speak out for the minority on this one. The result was fine, the method was not. If you feel you need to get rid of a fan, use game management. The method used in this case, while humorous, is not the way to deal with the situation. I totally agree with those who said it we as officials need to above this type of behavior.

Mark, off the court, go ahead and blast away with both barrels but while on the court, representing all of us, please show a little constraint, for all of our benefit.

rockyroad Fri Feb 08, 2008 01:33pm

Here's a different approach...watching my son's JV game the other night. Officiating was sketchy, but it's a JV game. There is one of those clowns sitting at the other end doing the same thing as the guy in Mark's OP. During the second quarter, there is a time-out and the guy is reciting his litany of all the things the officials have missed so far. One of the refs calmly walks over, sits down beside the guy and has a quiet conversation with him. The guys laughs, pats the ref on the back, and never says another word the rest of the game.

Now I have no idea what the ref said to him, but they both ended up smiling and the problem was solved. Seems to me that that was a much better way to handle the situation than what was in the OP. But that's just my opinion, and while my opinion is not worth as much as Jurassic's, it's gotta at least be worth as much as that snaqwells guy!!:)

Adam Fri Feb 08, 2008 02:01pm

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Originally Posted by Red_Killian
I'm mainly a lurker on this board but feel I have to speak out for the minority on this one. The result was fine, the method was not. If you feel you need to get rid of a fan, use game management. The method used in this case, while humorous, is not the way to deal with the situation. I totally agree with those who said it we as officials need to above this type of behavior.

Mark, off the court, go ahead and blast away with both barrels but while on the court, representing all of us, please show a little constraint, for all of our benefit.

Remember, guys, this was done in a kids' wreck league game (I'm assuming, anyway); not high school varsity.

Adam Fri Feb 08, 2008 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
Now I have no idea what the ref said to him, but they both ended up smiling and the problem was solved. Seems to me that that was a much better way to handle the situation than what was in the OP. But that's just my opinion, and while my opinion is not worth as much as Jurassic's, it's gotta at least be worth as much as that snaqwells guy!!:)

Don't sell yourself short, dude.

Mark Padgett Fri Feb 08, 2008 02:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Killian
The result was fine, the method was not.

It was the method that obtained that result.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Killian
If you feel you need to get rid of a fan, use game management.

This was a rec game for an "independent" group. There is no game management. Coaches aren't responsible even for the behavior of their player's parents. We're on our own in dealing with problems.


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