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kblehman Wed Feb 06, 2008 03:37pm

Stupid Things Stupid Fans Say
 
I've seen these come up from time to time in other threads, and if this is a repeat I apologize, but it's too good of a topic to not take advantage of. :rolleyes:

We've all heard the infamous "three seconds!" from the stands while both teams are battling for a rebound in the key. But let's go beyond the obvious dunderheadedness...

What are some of the stupidest things you've heard fans say during a game?

Seddy Wed Feb 06, 2008 03:42pm

Most fans simply don't know the over & back rule. Always unnecessarily screaming for it when it's not even close......

Terrapins Fan Wed Feb 06, 2008 03:53pm

My favorite thing that a fan has ever said was " She would NEVER say a cuss word"

Parent said that right after I "T"ed up her daughter for saying " That's Bull$hi!"
and right before my partner "T"ed her up and ejected her for the same thing as I was walking to the table to report it.


You got to love basketball. Oh, the Parent, I saw her at the market a week later and said "Hi" and came back with a big old "F' You", I wonder where the kid gets it???

Chess Ref Wed Feb 06, 2008 03:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblehman
I've seen these come up from time to time in other threads, and if this is a repeat I apologize, but it's too good of a topic to not take advantage of. :rolleyes:

We've all heard the infamous "three seconds!" from the stands while both teams are battling for a rebound in the key. But let's go beyond the obvious dunderheadedness...

What are some of the stupidest things you've heard fans say during a game?

Frosh game. Maybe 5 parents there due to a real early start. Big ole good ole boy in first row calling for 3 seconds whenever the other team had the ball.

We have an OOB throw-in. Kid sets up in the key. Billy-Bob just goes off as my partner is visibly counting. Partner gets to four. Bob goes nuts. "You all are even counting this time." Everybody justs cracks up.

Partner has a 5 second call. Bob still yelling. HC sends AC over to Bob they talk. No more screaming about 3 seconds.

Bob moved on to "that's a moving screen" sigh

kblehman Wed Feb 06, 2008 03:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblehman
What are some of the stupidest things you've heard fans say during a game?

I have 2 examples. Here is #1:

Grade school tournament, girl’s game, running clock until final 2 minutes. Small gym, overzealous parents right on top of us. Team A leading Team B by about 6 points with 8-min to go. A1 fouled on shot, goes to line for 2FTs. Scorekeeper mistakenly stops the clock for FTs but it's not noticed until play resumes and clock is not running. I go over to clear it up, explain to the kid to let it run until 2-min, resume play. With 6-min to go B1 is fouled and goes to the line with her team still down by 6 pts. I am trail. Team B father in stands right behind me complains that the clock is still running during FTs. I tell him it's a running clock until 2-min left. FT is missed, ball goes OB right next to this guy. I'm standing there to IB the ball and he says, "that's not fair, it was stopped for the other team's free throws! Why do they get an advantage?" I respond, "your team is behind, right? Whose advantage is it when the clock stops?" All the fans around him got it (and started snickering). I don't think he did.

kblehman Wed Feb 06, 2008 04:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblehman
What are some of the stupidest things you've heard fans say during a game?

My example #2:

I had heard that a parent for an Eaton Rapids MS girls team was very vocal and had already been asked to leave 3 games this year. So I’m pleased to report that this imbecile didn’t let me down in an ER game I worked vs JCMS. There were only 40 people in the stands, so each time a call went against ER we could easily hear his loud complaints and comments about how bad we were and how we were “homers.” But how could we toss this guy, he was such an idiot all he was doing was making a fool of himself and we were laughing through the entire game.... :D

Anyway, this was his classic comment. For 3 quarters he complained every time we called a foul on his team. Early in the 4th, ER team was down by 20+ and one their guards clearly traveled. I thought my partner was going to call it, he thought I was going to call it. Neither of us did, so it didn’t get called. In the act of traveling the ER guard turned it over and JCMS picked it up and went down the court for a layup. On the way back up the court as I’m going by him, the guy loudly says, “why would he call a travel on us when he knows JCMS has a chance to get a layup?” I almost spit my whistle out. Not only am I a horrible ref, I’m clairvoyant!!

ILRef80 Wed Feb 06, 2008 04:27pm

Fans really don't know the rules.

The things I hear the most screaming about:

1) Over and back non-calls
2) 3 seconds (often on rebounds or throw ins)
3) The infamous "Call it both ways"

BEAREF Wed Feb 06, 2008 05:24pm

I had one last night in a varsity girls game. After a "scrum" for a loose ball in the lane and the player that gained control of the ball called time out a fan in the stands yells out..."she traveled, her feet were on the floor".:rolleyes:

fullor30 Wed Feb 06, 2008 05:41pm

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Originally Posted by BEAREF
I had one last night in a varsity girls game. After a "scrum" for a loose ball in the lane and the player that gained control of the ball called time out a fan in the stands yells out..."she traveled, her feet were on the floor".:rolleyes:

Was at a boys varsity the other night and the testosterone Dad is all amped up yelling "how can that be a charge? he didn't have the ball". This, to a illegal screen call with the 'punch'

Ref_in_Alberta Wed Feb 06, 2008 05:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kblehman
What are some of the stupidest things you've heard fans say during a game?

Just last night...

4Q... Home team is down big, I heard "There's 2 teams out there" after I'd called a foul on a home team player. After reporting the foul, I look at the clock, foul count is 3 - 3. *sigh*

pank Wed Feb 06, 2008 07:20pm

How about this one . . .
 
In more than 20 years of reffing, I'd never heard this one after calling a foul . . . until this year . . .

"You don't have to hate 'em, just ref 'em."

rainmaker Wed Feb 06, 2008 07:28pm

Few years ago. 6th grade boys.

"You do realize that you're taking away my son's college scholarship!!"

Adam Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainmaker
Few years ago. 6th grade boys.

"You do realize that you're taking away my son's college scholarship!!"

Comments from Padgett don't count.

JS 20 Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:40pm

1) During a TO, fairly empty gym, fan stands up behind me and yells "why don't you go watch a referee tape?!?!

2) First time I did an AAU game. After the game, I come back from getting a drink and mom in the stands says to me and my partner, "you're a piece of sh*t and you're a piece of sh*t!!!"

3) It's a boys game! Not a girls game!

4) AAU 9 and under. Fans are right on top of us on the sidelines, I made an OB call and mom in the stands is in my ear and says "you're sorry! s-o-r-r-y." No idea why she felt the need to spell it for me.

5) Earlier this year had to warn mom and dad at half court in a MS game (about 40 people in a tiny tiny gym) that they needed to back off me and my partner. I tell dad to button it up (i was actually very calm and nice) and mom says "if he's not allowed to talk, then I will, you're terrible!!"

6) Freshman game earlier this year, same dad always in the front row of this small gym telling me and my partner that every call we make is wrong. Other team makes second of two FT's so his kid's team will have it OB and they call a TO. My back is to him and he says "hey ref, can they run the endline after a made FT? Can they run the endline? Hey, i'm talking to you. Are they allowed to run the endline? I'm asking you a question!!" I didn't flinch once to indicate I was listening to his BS.

Adam Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20
1) During a TO, fairly empty gym, fan stands up behind me and yells "why don't you go watch a referee tape?!?!

2) First time I did an AAU game. After the game, I come back from getting a drink and mom in the stands says to me and my partner, "you're a piece of sh*t and you're a piece of sh*t!!!"

3) It's a boys game! Not a girls game!

4) AAU 9 and under. Fans are right on top of us on the sidelines, I made an OB call and mom in the stands is in my ear and says "you're sorry! s-o-r-r-y." No idea why she felt the need to spell it for me.

5) Earlier this year had to warn mom and dad at half court in a MS game (about 40 people in a tiny tiny gym) that they needed to back off me and my partner. I tell dad to button it up (i was actually very calm and nice) and mom says "if he's not allowed to talk, then I will, you're terrible!!"

6) Freshman game earlier this year, same dad always in the front row of this small gym telling me and my partner that every call we make is wrong. Other team makes second of two FT's so his kid's team will have it OB and they call a TO. My back is to him and he says "hey ref, can they run the endline after a made FT? Can they run the endline? Hey, i'm talking to you. Are they allowed to run the endline? I'm asking you a question!!" I didn't flinch once to indicate I was listening to his BS.

2 and 5 should be removed from the gym by game management. #6 should be addressed if it's a distraction to you. Address it through game management, though, not directly with the Dad. If it's not a distraction, let him make a fool of himself.

cshs81 Thu Feb 07, 2008 09:55am

Would "he lifted his pivot foot" qualify?

kblehman Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ref_in_Alberta
Just last night...

4Q... Home team is down big, I heard "There's 2 teams out there" after I'd called a foul on a home team player. After reporting the foul, I look at the clock, foul count is 3 - 3. *sigh*

LOL, I had a similar one this year.

Frist quarter of a girls freshman game, girl goes up the right sideline (don't they always?) against a press and a defender comes over to trap her. Ball gets knocked OB. I call it and signal home team ball. A woman yells out, "call it both ways!" The foul count was 0-0.

chayce Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:31am

Crazy and Creative
 
I always appreciate creativity in fans and get a good laugh when they come up with something original. I heard a fan say in a recent game after there was no call on what the fan thought should have been a walk, "The last time I saw someone travel that far, they had a passport!" ...not bad!

For the first time ever, a fan recently called me a "baboon"! I am not sure why but it sounded funny...it was during a timeout so I turned and looked up at him and said, "Hey, unless you get some bananas down here real fast, you're outta here!" The rest of the fans thought it was funny but I don't think he really did.

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:32pm

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Originally Posted by kblehman
A woman yells out, "call it both ways!" .

"I can't ma'am. We're only allowed to call it the right way."

Ignats75 Thu Feb 07, 2008 01:35pm

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3) The infamous "Call it both ways"
Couple of years ago, I had a fan yell that when I called a violation on the jump ball!!!!:eek: I responded, "Only if we go into OT.":D Everyone but him laughed. :rolleyes:

Raymond Mon Apr 28, 2008 03:20pm

I came in yesterday to work the late AAU games. In our changing room a good buddy/mentor of mine says a fan came up to him after his last game and said "You and you partner set refereeing back to the Negro Leagues".

Not 2 minutes later another veteran official walks in the room and says a fan followed he and his partner off the floor yelling "you guys set officiating back 30 years!!!"

Nevadaref Mon Apr 28, 2008 04:42pm

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Few years ago. 6th grade boys.

"You do realize that you're taking away my son's college scholarship!!"

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Comments from Padgett don't count.

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
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Have to clean the screen now.

Nevadaref Mon Apr 28, 2008 04:46pm

MS girls summer game.
Player is trapped in the bc by tight defense and requests a time-out. A father in the stands yells out, "Smart play. Way to avoid the 8-second violation."
I told him that this wasn't the NBA. Some people laughed, but I seriously doubt that most got the point.

Yes, I was fully prepared for someone to holler for a bc count violation only a few seconds after play resumed. :rolleyes:

Coltdoggs Mon Apr 28, 2008 06:06pm

This wasn't a parent but a coach...14U league.

2 PC calls on same player and another PC on another player in the first half. He asked me if that was my favorite call...I said, "Not really, I have another one that I like!' He later got Td up for yelling "You are killing us out there today".

Game goes to OT, I go to the huddles to let them know they will get 1 TO for the OT period. Coach asks me if I am going to call any more PCs....I tell him "Well coach, if it's a PC, I'll call PC....if it's a block, I'll call block and if I don't blow my whistle, we got incidental contact...that work for you?" He cracked up laughing and said it sounded fair to him....

BillyMac Mon Apr 28, 2008 07:06pm

Check It Out, Is This Educational ???
 
I just came across this yesterday on the Topeka Officials Association website. I haven't had time to "digest it" yet, so I don't know how educational, or helpful, it is, but I thought it fit this thread

General Techniques:
• Don’t walk directly to a coach. The coach will get your attention if they have a question.
• Statements by coaches don’t normally need a response. Answer questions, not statements.
• Let the coach speak/ask their question first, before speaking. Be a responder, not an initiator.
• Most coaches will have questions/comments when they believe the officials have missed an obvious call.
• Having the officials in closer proximity often calms down the coach.
• Be in control and speak in calm, easy tones. Be aware of your body language; maintain positive and confident body language.
• Make eye contact with the coach when the situation allows.
• Do not try to answer a question from an out of control coach; deal with the behavior first.
• If you’ve missed a call or made a mistake; admit it. This technique can only be used sparingly, perhaps once a game.
• Don’t bluff your way through a call.
• Do not ignore a coach.

Specific Communication Examples: Behavior/Question/Comment from Coach Official’s Response

Coach sees the play very differently than the official.
“Coach, if that’s the way it happened/what you saw, then I must have missed it. I’ll take a closer look next time.”
“Coach, I understand what you’re saying, however, on that play, I didn’t see it that way. I’ll keep an eye for it on both ends.”
“Coach, I had a good look at that play and here’s what I saw [short explanation].”
“Coach, I understand what you’re saying, but my angle was different than yours.”
“Coach, I had a great look at that play, but I understand your question and I’ll have the crew keep an eye on it.”
“Coach, I had that play all the way and made the call.”

Coach believes you’re missing persistent illegal acts by the other team.
“Ok coach, we’ll watch for that.”
“Coach, we are watching for that on both ends of the court.”

Coach is questioning a partner’s call.
“Coach, that’s a good call, as a crew we have to make that call.”
“We’re calling it on both ends.”
“Coach, they were right there and had a great angle.”
“Coach, we’re not going there, I can’t let you criticize my teammate.”
“Coach, they had a great look, but if you have a specific question, you’ll have to ask them, they’ll be over here in just a minute.”

Coach is very animated and gesturing.
“Coach, I’m going to talk with you and answer your questions, but you must put your arms down/stop the gesturing.”
“Coach, please put your arms down. Now, what’s your question?”

Coach is raising their voice asking the question.
“Coach, I can hear you/I’m standing right here, you don’t need to raise your voice.”
"Coach, I need you to stop raising your voice and just ask your question calmly.”

Coach is commenting on something every time down the floor.
“Coach, I need you to pick your spots, we can’t have a comment on every single call that is being made.”

Coach has a good point and might be right.
“You’ve got a good point and might be right about that play.”
“You might be right, that’s one we’ll talk about at halftime/intermission/the next time out.”
“You might be right; I may not have had the best angle on that play.”

Coach is venting, make editorial comments.
“I hear what you’re saying”
“I hear what you’re saying, but we’re moving on.”

Coach just won’t let it go.
“I’ve heard enough and that’s your warning.”

Mark Padgett Mon Apr 28, 2008 07:13pm

Here's a real time saver for all of these -

Coach sees the play very differently than the official.

Coach believes you’re missing persistent illegal acts by the other team.

Coach is questioning a partner’s call.

Coach is very animated and gesturing.

Coach is raising their voice asking the question.

Coach is commenting on something every time down the floor.

Coach has a good point and might be right.

Coach is venting, make editorial comments.

Coach just won’t let it go.

"YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!"

Of course, "Coach has a good point and might be right" never happens so don't worry about it.

Nevadaref Mon Apr 28, 2008 07:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac
I just came across this yesterday on the Topeka Officials Association website. I haven't had time to "digest it" yet, so I don't know how educational, or helpful, it is, but I thought it fit this thread

General Techniques:
• Don’t walk directly to a coach. The coach will get your attention if they have a question.
• Statements by coaches don’t normally need a response. Answer questions, not statements.
• Let the coach speak/ask their question first, before speaking. Be a responder, not an initiator.
• Most coaches will have questions/comments when they believe the officials have missed an obvious call.
• Having the officials in closer proximity often calms down the coach.
• Be in control and speak in calm, easy tones. Be aware of your body language; maintain positive and confident body language.
• Make eye contact with the coach when the situation allows.
• Do not try to answer a question from an out of control coach; deal with the behavior first.
• If you’ve missed a call or made a mistake; admit it. This technique can only be used sparingly, perhaps once a game.
• Don’t bluff your way through a call.
• Do not ignore a coach.

Specific Communication Examples: Behavior/Question/Comment from Coach Official’s Response

Coach sees the play very differently than the official.
“Coach, if that’s the way it happened/what you saw, then I must have missed it. I’ll take a closer look next time.”
“Coach, I understand what you’re saying, however, on that play, I didn’t see it that way. I’ll keep an eye for it on both ends.”
“Coach, I had a good look at that play and here’s what I saw [short explanation].”
“Coach, I understand what you’re saying, but my angle was different than yours.”
“Coach, I had a great look at that play, but I understand your question and I’ll have the crew keep an eye on it.”
“Coach, I had that play all the way and made the call.”

Coach believes you’re missing persistent illegal acts by the other team.
“Ok coach, we’ll watch for that.”
“Coach, we are watching for that on both ends of the court.”

Coach is questioning a partner’s call.
“Coach, that’s a good call, as a crew we have to make that call.”
“We’re calling it on both ends.”
“Coach, they were right there and had a great angle.”
“Coach, we’re not going there, I can’t let you criticize my teammate.”
“Coach, they had a great look, but if you have a specific question, you’ll have to ask them, they’ll be over here in just a minute.”

Coach is very animated and gesturing.
“Coach, I’m going to talk with you and answer your questions, but you must put your arms down/stop the gesturing.”
“Coach, please put your arms down. Now, what’s your question?”

Coach is raising their voice asking the question.
“Coach, I can hear you/I’m standing right here, you don’t need to raise your voice.”
"Coach, I need you to stop raising your voice and just ask your question calmly.”

Coach is commenting on something every time down the floor.
“Coach, I need you to pick your spots, we can’t have a comment on every single call that is being made.”

Coach has a good point and might be right.
“You’ve got a good point and might be right about that play.”
“You might be right, that’s one we’ll talk about at halftime/intermission/the next time out.”
“You might be right; I may not have had the best angle on that play.”

Coach is venting, make editorial comments.
“I hear what you’re saying”
“I hear what you’re saying, but we’re moving on.”

Coach just won’t let it go.
“I’ve heard enough and that’s your warning.”

Billy,
For the most part this is very good. The only thing of which I'm not in favor is all the references to "both ends." That is just going to open the door for the "call it both ways" comment. I would try to avoid that kind of terminology when interacting with a coach.

JS 20 Mon Apr 28, 2008 07:54pm

I don't see one on there that applies to a situation I had. What do you say to the coach who says "You don't like me do you? That's ok, I have big shoulders. I'm the man of steel, baby. I can take it."

BillyMac Mon Apr 28, 2008 08:27pm

On The Atchison, Topeka And The Santa Fe ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
For the most part this is very good.

Credit goes to the Topeka Officials Association. I haven't had time to really read it yet.

Do yuh hear that whistle down the line?
I figure that it's engine number forty nine,
She's the only one that'll sound that way.
On the Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe.

Nevadaref Mon Apr 28, 2008 08:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20
I don't see one on there that applies to a situation I had. What do you say to the coach who says "You don't like me do you? That's ok, I have big shoulders. I'm the man of steel, baby. I can take it."

A. Laugh at him.
B. Tell him to take his big shoulders to the parking lot.
C. Tell him to put on his walking shoes and take a hike.
D. Tell him that he's right. You don't like him and are going to take it out on his team.

Back In The Saddle Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20
I don't see one on there that applies to a situation I had. What do you say to the coach who says "You don't like me do you? That's ok, I have big shoulders. I'm the man of steel, baby. I can take it."

Nah, Coach. It's not you I have a problem with. It's that horrible tie you're wearing! :D

Back In The Saddle Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:55pm

My favorite from last season...

Blue coach: I need you to call those moving screens.
Me: *Tweet* Blue 22, bad screen.
Blue coach: I didn't want you to call that as THIS end!

Adam Tue Apr 29, 2008 07:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20
I don't see one on there that applies to a situation I had. What do you say to the coach who says "You don't like me do you? That's ok, I have big shoulders. I'm the man of steel, baby. I can take it."

"Coach, I've never met you before. I haven't had a chance to form an opinion yet. Ask me after the game."

Or, "Coach, I don't like or dislike anyone here. It keeps me out of trouble."

SonikBoom Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20
I don't see one on there that applies to a situation I had. What do you say to the coach who says "You don't like me do you? That's ok, I have big shoulders. I'm the man of steel, baby. I can take it."

""It wold help if you'de quit calling me baby"

Mark Padgett Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:51am

Unfortunately, I've only been able to use this once. A1 is posting up holding the ball in both hands in front of him. B1 reaches around from behind and knocks the ball OOB. As I go over to administer the throw in, coach A says, "Surely that was a foul." I tell him, "there was no contact, Coach - and don't call me Shirley."

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Splute Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20
I don't see one on there that applies to a situation I had. What do you say to the coach who says "You don't like me do you? That's ok, I have big shoulders. I'm the man of steel, baby. I can take it."

Reminds me of one I had. Partner didnt show so I am calling Frosh game. Kids playing pretty good but getting a bit rough. At half time I call both coaches over and tell them both, the next swinging elbows or rough play and the player is gone... the one coach looks at me and says "why were you looking at me when you said that?" "now all the people in the stands will think there is a problem with me and my team" and begins to walk off still making a fuss... I am stunned... lol yep thats what I was thinking coach.

Coltdoggs Tue Apr 29, 2008 01:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20
I don't see one on there that applies to a situation I had. What do you say to the coach who says "You don't like me do you? That's ok, I have big shoulders. I'm the man of steel, baby. I can take it."

"Wow coach, are you serious? I haven't said a word to you and all you have done is chew me a new one...are you sure it's YOU that doesn't like ME? " :D

JS 20 Tue Apr 29, 2008 02:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonikBoom
""It wold help if you'de quit calling me baby"

The next time I had this guy, he wanted a walk and is screaming "come on baby, that's a walk baby, you gotta give me that call baby". I don't acknowledge him at all. He says "you're not even gonna say yes or no to me?" to which I replied "oh sorry coach, I didn't know you were talking to me, my name isn't baby." Yeah he didn't like that :D

Mark Padgett Tue Apr 29, 2008 02:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20
He says "you're not even gonna say yes or no to me?"

"Coach, my silence speaks volumes. You should try it." :cool:

Adam Tue Apr 29, 2008 02:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20
The next time I had this guy, he wanted a walk and is screaming "come on baby, that's a walk baby, you gotta give me that call baby". I don't acknowledge him at all. He says "you're not even gonna say yes or no to me?" to which I replied "oh sorry coach, I didn't know you were talking to me, my name isn't baby." Yeah he didn't like that :D

I like it. Nice. :)


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