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Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:11am
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Joe - remember, in NCAA-W, you cannot grant the TO if the player is in the air going OOB. If they still have one foot on the floor in-bounds, you can still grant the TO even though they are falling OOB.
What part of Joe stating "I just kicked it" did you fail to understand?

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Adam Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:16am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
What part of Joe stating "I just kicked it" did you fail to understand?

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I vote for a long boring discussion.

Raymond Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:28am
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Originally Posted by JoeTheRef
It's not legal in college. I didn't grant the timeout because she was going out bounds but the last second stretched her landing foot inbounds then hopped oob, but I already called the oob violation when she landed. I was moreless concentrating on her calling timeout, knowing she can't be granted the timeout while saving the ball from going oob. It was a weird play and probably the only one who saw her land inbounds for that split second was me and the opposing coach because it was right in front her bench. The player didn't even know where she landed, I just kicked it.
So really, you shouldn't have called an OOB violation, you should have just ignored her time-out request. Then since she landed inbounds you could have called a travel (if it applied) or granted the time-out since she was still inbounds?

Am I correct in this thinking?

M&M Guy Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:46am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
What part of Joe stating "I just kicked it" did you fail to understand?

Pay attention. We may have a test later on. Or maybe a poll......
I saw he said that. What I wasn't clear on was <B>how</B> he kicked it.
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Originally Posted by JoeTheRef
I was moreless concentrating on her calling timeout, knowing she can't be granted the timeout while saving the ball from going oob.
This is the statement I was trying to clarify. In NCAA-W you can grant a TO to a player that is falling OOB, as long as one foot is still on the floor in-bounds. We are told to ignore the request if the player is off the floor while going OOB. Subtle difference. If he knows that, then I'll just fade off into the woodwork. (And, no, we don't need a poll to see how many want me to fade off into the woodwork...)

Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:54am
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
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We are told to ignore the request if the player is off the floor while going OOB. Subtle difference.
The difference is that the airborne player requesting the TO landed in-bounds after she made the request. In that case, you have to grant it, by rule, <i>n'est-ce pas</i>? Joe didn't and that's where he kicked it.

I think that's what Joe was saying. Note the "think".

JoeTheRef Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:55am
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
So really, you shouldn't have called an OOB violation, you should have just ignored her time-out request. Then since she landed inbounds you could have called a travel (if it applied) or granted the time-out since she was still inbounds?

Am I correct in this thinking?
You're correct in this thinking. I should've called the time out.

M&M Guy Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:03am
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Originally Posted by JoeTheRef
You're correct in this thinking. I should've called the time out.
Ok, then.

I'm headin' back to the woodwork.

mbyron Wed Feb 06, 2008 02:03pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
The difference is that the airborne player requesting the TO landed in-bounds after she made the request. In that case, you have to grant it, by rule, <i>n'est-ce pas</i>? Joe didn't and that's where he kicked it.
For those of you who don't know French, that means 'nicht wahr'. ;)


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