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fullor30 Fri Feb 01, 2008 02:40pm

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Originally Posted by ace
white jackets?

interesting.

We wear black.


There is an elite association in Illinois with many of the top officials, they have their own 'white jackets' Kind of a special forces type thing.

They may have been banned this year, I haven't seen any, Rut claims they can't wear them.

How about a black jacket with a little bit of white in it?

mightyvol Fri Feb 01, 2008 03:44pm

I was the one who found out that Welmer had worked soo many nights about a month and a half ago. Couldnt believe how much he works. Its unreal. I dont agree with it and never will. Not that I dont think he is a good official, its the simple fact that their are other up and coming officials that could be working instead of him. He will easily go over 100 nights and too me that is a joke.

Adam Fri Feb 01, 2008 03:51pm

I hate to burst your bubble, but we've been talking about Welmer here for years. And the consensus seems to be, "Who cares?"

JRutledge Fri Feb 01, 2008 03:59pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
There is an elite association in Illinois with many of the top officials, they have their own 'white jackets' Kind of a special forces type thing.

They may have been banned this year, I haven't seen any, Rut claims they can't wear them.

How about a black jacket with a little bit of white in it?

It is not a claim, they are not allowed by the state. Now just because someone wears one does not mean it is allowed by the powers that be. I see officials wearing the "side-panel" shirts but that does not mean you are not supposed to wear them.

Do not get confused about what is allowed as to what people will do anyway. Just like the speed limit is 65 on most intestate roads does not mean there are not people that will go 85. Same thing when it comes to specific uniform items.

Peace

JRutledge Fri Feb 01, 2008 04:08pm

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Originally Posted by mightyvol
I was the one who found out that Welmer had worked soo many nights about a month and a half ago. Couldnt believe how much he works. Its unreal. I dont agree with it and never will. Not that I dont think he is a good official, its the simple fact that their are other up and coming officials that could be working instead of him. He will easily go over 100 nights and too me that is a joke.

I also hate to burst your bubble, but the coaches want him and several others working their games. They do not want some "young kid" working their games and screwing up their million dollar bonus because they cannot handle a national TV audience. And Welmer is not taking away games from a young guy at all. He is working in the place of another big time official that is just under the level Welmer is. Also if you watch the other officials Welmer works with, they are working a similar schedule. And if Welmer was not appreciated by the schools and coaches, he would not be there. And it really does not matter what you or I think about it.

Peace

oldschool Fri Feb 01, 2008 05:03pm

Where did he come from and what is his background?

Mark Padgett Fri Feb 01, 2008 05:05pm

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Originally Posted by oldschool
Where did he come from and what is his background?

Who raised the dead????? :eek:

zebraman Fri Feb 01, 2008 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by mightyvol
I was the one who found out that Welmer had worked soo many nights about a month and a half ago. Couldnt believe how much he works. Its unreal. I dont agree with it and never will. Not that I dont think he is a good official, its the simple fact that their are other up and coming officials that could be working instead of him. He will easily go over 100 nights and too me that is a joke.

He works that many games because the assignors want him. More power to him.

ace Fri Feb 01, 2008 05:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30
There is an elite association in Illinois with many of the top officials, they have their own 'white jackets' Kind of a special forces type thing.

They may have been banned this year, I haven't seen any, Rut claims they can't wear them.

How about a black jacket with a little bit of white in it?

this sounds crazy! what makes them so elite?

OR are these jackets given to the guys who make the state tourny?

Mark Padgett Fri Feb 01, 2008 05:49pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
How about a black jacket with a little bit of white in it?

Or, since our shirts are black and white striped, how about matching jackets?

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Jurassic Referee Fri Feb 01, 2008 06:10pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Who raised the dead????? :eek:

Not to worry.

Different Old School.

fullor30 Fri Feb 01, 2008 06:14pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
It is not a claim, they are not allowed by the state. Now just because someone wears one does not mean it is allowed by the powers that be. I see officials wearing the "side-panel" shirts but that does not mean you are not supposed to wear them.

Do not get confused about what is allowed as to what people will do anyway. Just like the speed limit is 65 on most intestate roads does not mean there are not people that will go 85. Same thing when it comes to specific uniform items.

Peace

No confusion at all.

fullor30 Fri Feb 01, 2008 06:17pm

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Originally Posted by ace
this sounds crazy! what makes them so elite?

OR are these jackets given to the guys who make the state tourny?


Elite might be the wrong choice of words, it's more 'clubby' and you have to be asked to join the association. The officials I know personally in the group are all top officials AND good guys.

mightyvol Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:28am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
I also hate to burst your bubble, but the coaches want him and several others working their games. They do not want some "young kid" working their games and screwing up their million dollar bonus because they cannot handle a national TV audience. And Welmer is not taking away games from a young guy at all. He is working in the place of another big time official that is just under the level Welmer is. Also if you watch the other officials Welmer works with, they are working a similar schedule. And if Welmer was not appreciated by the schools and coaches, he would not be there. And it really does not matter what you or I think about it.

Peace


Ahhh B.S. There are plenty of others out there that are capable. Im not buying this B.S one minute. How the hell else are the other young guns supposed to get exposure when he does every damn game?

ace Sat Feb 02, 2008 01:24am

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Originally Posted by mightyvol
Ahhh B.S. There are plenty of others out there that are capable. Im not buying this B.S one minute. How the hell else are the other young guns supposed to get exposure when he does every damn game?

Theres quite a few D1 guys who frequent this board, and they might not posters but lurkers, possibly even some evals, etc. who work camps you might go to, who might decide if you possibly get to work the D1 level. I'd be careful, because I've learned, stuff you say on the internet can come back to you.


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