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ca_rumperee Sat Jan 26, 2008 09:45pm

Q from 1st Year: Time out substitutions
 
In the games that I have worked so far, I never even think about whether substitutions have been made during time outs, whether they have been reported properly.

Any advice for how to perceive, and manage these properly?

Again, I'm starting from nothing on this, and I haven't had a partner who offered any awareness of it either.

Kelvin green Sat Jan 26, 2008 09:54pm

You really dont care who subsitutute during time outs until the first buzzer... After that you do because they cant come in after that... People can check in, change mind, go back etc...

ca_rumperee Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:00pm

So, 1st horn sounds, "white, first horn" & "blue, first horn!"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelvin green
You really dont care who subsitutute during time outs until the first buzzer... After that you do because they cant come in after that... People can check in, change mind, go back etc...

and out come 5 whites and 5 blues.

Do I need to know that they were the SAME 5 whites and 5 blues that were on the floor when the timeout was granted?

bob jenkins Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca_rumperee
and out come 5 whites and 5 blues.

Do I need to know that they were the SAME 5 whites and 5 blues that were on the floor when the timeout was granted?

No. That's the scorer's job (although not all do it correctly -- especially at the lower levels)

Back In The Saddle Sun Jan 27, 2008 01:14am

In my experience, if there's going to be a problem, it'll be just as the players are returning to the floor. You'll see somebody check in with the scorer before stepping onto the floor. Don't let your the ball back in play until you've asked the scorekeeper whether that person just checked in, and wasn't in before the time out. If that's the case, then bring them back out and get the original player back in.

blindofficial Sun Jan 27, 2008 02:35am

Subs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelvin green
You really dont care who subsitutute during time outs until the first buzzer... After that you do because they cant come in after that... People can check in, change mind, go back etc...

I agree! However, if I'm the one getting the teams out of the huddle, I'll always signal to my partner that we have five players on each team out and we're good to go. This way, we don't have players running onto the floor at the last second.

comical Sun Jan 27, 2008 05:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
No. That's the scorer's job (although not all do it correctly -- especially at the lower levels)

Could someone explain the correct way for the scorer to do this? Thanks.

bob jenkins Sun Jan 27, 2008 06:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by comical
Could someone explain the correct way for the scorer to do this? Thanks.

Keep a list of who is in the game, and then who subs in / out.

So, if the starters are 1 though 5, the list is:

1
2
3
4
5

If 11 and 12 enter for 3 and 4, the list is:

1
2
X, 11
X, 12
5

If 3 now enters for 1, the list is:

X, 3
2
X, 11
X, 12
5

If after a TO, those aren't the 5 on the floor, hit the horn.

comical Sun Jan 27, 2008 08:40pm

Thanks for the explanation.


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