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Back In The Saddle Thu Jan 24, 2008 02:05am

Reaching through the boundary
 
I stayed to watch the V game tonight and witnessed not only a warning for reaching through the boundary, but two technicals for reaching through after the warning. All by the same player. The first T was on the subsequent throw-in after the warning. :rolleyes:

Early in the 2nd half, the other (non-warning-giving and t-throwing) official even talked to the player before a throw-in about not reaching through the boundary and appeared to go to some length to ensure the kid understood the rule. But the kid picked up another T for it near the end of the game.

It's my understanding that this is a TEAM technical and not charged to an individual player.

NFHS 10-1-10 Team technical...Art. 10... Following any team warning for delay, commit a violation of the throw-in boundary-line plane as in 9-2-11.

Both T's were charged directly to the player, and the second one resulted in his 5th foul and disqualification, though the official didn't seem like he was going to DQ the kid for getting a second T, not until the scorekeeper signaled it as a fifth foul. I didn't stick around for the post-game, but I wonder if they discussed filing a report with the state for the kid getting DQ'd on technicals.

HawkeyeCubP Thu Jan 24, 2008 02:14am

Yep, team technical. (Player technical in NCAA W.)

ca_rumperee Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:21am

Delay of Game -- Team
 
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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
Both T's were charged directly to the player, and the second one resulted in his 5th foul and disqualification, though the official didn't seem like he was going to DQ the kid for getting a second T, not until the scorekeeper signaled it as a fifth foul. I didn't stick around for the post-game, but I wonder if they discussed filing a report with the state for the kid getting DQ'd on technicals.

I find this easy to remember... because delay of game is a team technical.

Nevadaref Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:30am

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP
Yep, team technical. (Player technical in NCAA W.)

I see that is one of the rule changes that was added this year. Strange decision of the committee to penalize the individual, I must say.

Jurassic Referee Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:03am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
I see that is one of the rule changes that was added this year. Strange decision of the committee to penalize the individual, I must say.

Why? We penalize the individual for delay of game too <i>a la</i> rule 10-3-6.

What is the difference between interfering with the ball following a goal(10-1-5d) and preventing the ball from being made live promptly or from being put in play(10-3-6a)? One is a team "T" and the other is a player "T", but how do they really differ?

I can see the logic of issuing a team "T" when a <b>team</b> delays the game. But what is the logic of issuing a team "T" when a single <b>player</b> is delaying the game?

Nevadaref Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:48am

Why should the first player to break the plane get a warning and the second one a T, if they are different players?

This offense is committed by a team, so it should be a team T.


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