I'd bet a paycheck you don't know the color of ONE of the Rules Books

[Beemer]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

What was he claiming that you were wrong about: (a) the call or (b) your wording to the coach (how did he hear what you said to the coach?)

The call. I'm sure he could hear us it was pretty quiet in the gym at the time. He was only 5-8 rows up.

[Beemer]

Citing an exception to a rule seems like it wouldn't go over well with a coach. As a referee could make up any "exception" to a rule so that he's right. I'm trying hard this year to interact better with coaches, so how does this sound for a proper explanation:

"Coach you are correct under normal circumstances, however there is an exception to the rule that allows this play to be legal when the ball is being inbounded. Should the ball have been in play when he passed it, a violation would have occurred."

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Beemer

Citing an exception to a rule seems like it wouldn't go over well with a coach. As a referee could make up any "exception" to a rule so that he's right. I'm trying hard this year to interact better with coaches, so how does this sound for a proper explanation:

"Coach you are correct under normal circumstances, however there is an exception to the rule that allows this play to be legal when the ball is being inbounded. Should the ball have been in play when he passed it, a violation would have occurred."

Too wordy. Try for 5 words or fewer.

"Not during a throw-in, coach."

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Too wordy. Try for 5 words or fewer.

"Not during a throw-in, coach."

Does hyphenating "throw-in" make it one word instead of two?

[Beemer]

Sweet, thanks guys.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Too wordy. Try for 5 words or fewer.

"Not during a throw-in, coach."

Or maybe..."It's an exception allowed by rule."

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Or maybe..."It's an exception allowed by rule."

Won't work - it's six words.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Won't work - it's six words.

Shut up.

That's 2 words.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Shut up.

That's 2 words.

Hmm...that works.

[JugglingReferee]

So anyways.......... I am given 1 IAABO book every year, rather than the 3 Fed books.

So... what colour is the front of the Fed-published rulebook?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

So... what colour is the front of the Fed-published rulebook?

It doesn't have a colour. I does have a color, however.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Won't work - it's six words.

And he even had to use a contraction to get it down to 6.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

And he even had to use a contraction to get it down to 6.

I heard he's old, so he's probably used to contraction.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Beemer

Citing an exception to a rule seems like it wouldn't go over well with a coach. As a referee could make up any "exception" to a rule so that he's right. I'm trying hard this year to interact better with coaches, so how does this sound for a proper explanation:

"Coach you are correct under normal circumstances, however there is an exception to the rule that allows this play to be legal when the ball is being inbounded. Should the ball have been in play when he passed it, a violation would have occurred."

I don't mind the content of that response. I do think it's too long, though.

Unless the coach is new to coaching and/or the rules of basketball, I might go with something like, "Coach, there is an exception during throw-ins that makes that pass legal."

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Beemer

Citing an exception to a rule seems like it wouldn't go over well with a coach. As a referee could make up any "exception" to a rule so that he's right.

But if that exception is actually in the rules, what are you making up? There are many rules coaches and players get incorrect; it could be from watching NCAA and NBA games, where the rules are different from NF rules. I wouldn't worry about what a coach thinks, especially if you know you got the call correct.

Originally Posted by Beemer

I'm trying hard this year to interact better with coaches, so how does this sound for a proper explanation:

"Coach you are correct under normal circumstances, however there is an exception to the rule that allows this play to be legal when the ball is being inbounded. Should the ball have been in play when he passed it, a violation would have occurred."

Maybe a little wordy; I would keep explanations as simple as possible: "Coach, backcourt violation does not apply during a jump ball or throw-in." More often than not, it doesn't matter how eloquently you phrase your explanation, even if you also include the exact rule reference numbers and case book plays, coaches will still not believe your answer. So, to save time, give them the Cliff's Notes version, and get the ball back in play so they will move on to the play at hand.