Turned down the opportunity to call "Delay Return to the Court" T yesterday.
CYO 7th graders. I'm lead. Hand ball to the inbounder. I initiate count, he passes it in... but something feels strange... kid stays OOB for a couple of counts, then slides behind be to the corner, catches and shoots.
I did not know for certain that this was a calculated move on his part, so made no call. I did talk about him later, saying that if he delays on purpose... Anyways, that one is still on the "haven't called yet" list. |
Unfortunately, you missed this call and allowed that kid to gain an unfair advantage. He cheated and you should have penalized him for it.
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I haven't had the "opportunity" to make this call yet either.
Now, seeing as I work mostly MS/F and Rec Ball, the first time I do get the "opportunity" to call this, I can just imagine the next thing I'm gonna hear will sound something like....."What? You've got to be kidding me?" Which I hope isn't bad enough to get a WHACK! It may be the right call, but the fact that it's seldom used can always cause, ahem, momentary irritation...... :p |
I would like to see this changed to a violation so it does get called. To me it is similar to being oob. I called it once in a weekend tournament game. Had to as the shot that was hit put a team up 1 with 3 seconds remaining. It was an obvious one although few people know and understand the rule.
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I agree. The Fed finally wised up/caved in and made leaving the court a violation, after a year or so of making it a POE while it was still a T. When that didn't work, and it still wasn't being called, they had no choice but to change it.
As long as this remains a technical foul, I and many other officials will not call it. If the Fed reduces the penalty, it'll start getting called more. |
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It's a violation, nothing more. Please cite rule referring to cheater. Why don't you drag him to the town square and brand him with a scarlet 'C'? Sorry, you're a little pompous on this one. |
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Secondly, the reason that this is the penalty is that the NFHS deems this to be "unfair, unethical, [or] dishonorable conduct" and thus warranting an unsporting technical foul per rule 4-19-14. If that's not tantamount to cheating, I don't know what is. I guess you agree with little deecee who thinks that he knows better than the experienced NFHS committee. If you want to call someone pompous, I suggest that you look in his direction. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to make the correct call in this situation. |
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Late night post, meant to say technical foul. We're dealing in semantics and your's are over the top. Believe as you wish. |
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I this the same "experienced committee" that failed to proofread the rule book a several years ago, and "accidently" left out the lineup request when several substitues enter at the same time, and had to put it back in the rule book a few years ago. I would like to know who is on this "experienced committee", officials, coaches, athletic directors, interpreters from various officials organizations, boards, or associations? |
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While I don't like it that coaches can request a time-out during play, I do and will continue to correctly apply that rule until the NFHS committee sees fit to change it. On the other hand the attitude of deecee is that when he doesn't like a rule, he just won't apply it. Can you imagine him having this conversation with a coach? Coach: Didn't you hear me asking for a time-out. deecee: Yes, but I didn't give it to you. Coach: Why not? deecee: Because it is a bad rule and I don't like it, so I'm not going to follow it in my games. What treat he must be on the court. :( |
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