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Old Mon Jan 14, 2008, 07:06pm
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Too Old for College??

46 years old and wondering if it's too late. I know I can forget about D1, but what about the rest. 16 years experience, have done some low level college ball but never had time to devote to the higher level.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2008, 07:14pm
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I think most colleges will accept you, even DI if you have a HS diploma and a record of good grades. Of course, you'll have to come up with the tuition.

Oh wait - you're talking about officiating.

I dunno. Rut - what do you think?
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2008, 07:33pm
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This really depends on the area you live and the need for college officials and the other officials that have similar experiences. For the most part college officiating is a young man's game when you are trying to break in. I will never say that you have no chance, but it is probably unlikely because an assignor is looking for officials that have a long term self-life as an official.

I would think you should talk to officials in your area and see what is typical. I would think if you can officiate, you can officiate, but age does matter. Not because you cannot work, but because they want people they can use for the long term. And younger people tend to not have the same obligations to prevent them from travel or children that someone older might have to prevent them from leaving on a weekend.

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Old Mon Jan 14, 2008, 08:01pm
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i think you got a chance. go for it if you want. maybe i'm just saying that because I know some refs in their 60s who can still do it well
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This really depends on the area you live and the need for college officials and the other officials that have similar experiences. For the most part college officiating is a young man's game when you are trying to break in.
But Jeff, atcref didn't say whether he/she was male or female. Women do get breaks that men don't, at least sometimes, and if you're female, you're more likely to break in at an older age, depending on the assignor, the area and so forth. But it's true that generally, over 35 or 40 is very unlikely to get started.
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But it's true that generally, over 35 or 40 is very unlikely to get started.
So Juulie, you've got another 10 to 15 years to go before you miss the window?

Of course, my window is closed, locked and boarded up.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2008, 09:42pm
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So Juulie, you've got another 10 to 15 years to go before you miss the window?

Of course, my window is closed, locked and boarded up.
Makes it harder to throw bricks through it, though.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2008, 09:44pm
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So Juulie, you've got another 10 to 15 years to go before you miss the window?
Depends on whether you judge my age by my youthful, smooth and unbelievably flawless skin, or by my 8-year-old granddaughter.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2008, 09:45pm
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But Jeff, atcref didn't say whether he/she was male or female. Women do get breaks that men don't, at least sometimes, and if you're female, you're more likely to break in at an older age, depending on the assignor, the area and so forth. But it's true that generally, over 35 or 40 is very unlikely to get started.
Juulie,

I was talking in general. Even with that being said, a young female official in her 20s is going to have a completely different opportunity than someone in their 40s (on the women's side). There are college conferences that might offer opportunities to female officials in their 20s without going to camp yet. On the Men's side, not too many people are getting offered anything without going to camp in my experience. Usually you have to prove you are even worthy to get an opportunity. I also know many female officials that are not getting asked to work any college because they are older (or it seems that way).

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Juulie,

I was talking in general. Even with that being said, a young female official in her 20s is going to have a completely different opportunity than someone in their 40s (on the women's side). There are college conferences that might offer opportunities to female officials in their 20s without going to camp yet. On the Men's side, not too many people are getting offered anything without going to camp in my experience. Usually you have to prove you are even worthy to get an opportunity. I also know many female officials that are not getting asked to work any college because they are older (or it seems that way).

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Of course, you're right. I'm just saying that a 46-year old woman might have more chance of getting some college than a 46-year old man. At least in some conferences.

Another thing that matters to some extent is how old you appear. There are 55 year old people that don't look a day over 35, and they aren't allowed to ask you. So 46 isn't necessarily the end of the line, although it's probably getting close.
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Old Mon Jan 14, 2008, 10:30pm
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This really depends on the area you live and the need for college officials and the other officials that have similar experiences. For the most part college officiating is a young man's game when you are trying to break in. I will never say that you have no chance, but it is probably unlikely because an assignor is looking for officials that have a long term self-life as an official.

I would think you should talk to officials in your area and see what is typical. I would think if you can officiate, you can officiate, but age does matter. Not because you cannot work, but because they want people they can use for the long term. And younger people tend to not have the same obligations to prevent them from travel or children that someone older might have to prevent them from leaving on a weekend.

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I think you'll be just fine, if the assignor thinks you're good enough to make his roster, especially considering you've already officiated college basketball.
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