ChuckElias Originally posted by Dan_ref Bob, what's the answer? Maybe after an airborne shooter PC? I don't think so, Dan, b/c the PC makes the ball dead, right? Can't score the goal, the try has ended, right? So the ball must be dead. So contact after the PC should be ignored unless flagrant or excessive. I'm stumped, to be honest. I hate that!!!! Chuck
Dan_ref Originally posted by ChuckElias Originally posted by Dan_ref Bob, what's the answer? Maybe after an airborne shooter PC? I don't think so, Dan, b/c the PC makes the ball dead, right? Can't score the goal, the try has ended, right? So the ball must be dead. So contact after the PC should be ignored unless flagrant or excessive. I'm stumped, to be honest. I hate that!!!! Chuck Yep, just throwing something out there to not feel too dumb (or at least less dumb than usual 😉 ). Maybe it's some weird combination of airborne PC/buzzer, who knows but I mentioned airborne because Bob said it's on the FED test, and airborne shooter is a big defference between NCAA men & NFHS. BTW, get my e-mail?
Dan_ref Originally posted by Bart Tyson i know, i know, i know, pick me, pick me. Hmmm, let's see...I don't see any hands...let's just pick someone at random...someone who might know the answer.. hmmm....Tony? Mick? Rut?....no, not Bart....Hey! Bart's got his hand up after all! OK Bart, what's the answer? And remember you have a lifeline left... 🙂
Bart Tyson Geeee i thought you would never pick me. OK, after a basket we have a dead ball, right? Now the ball is at the disposal to the throwerin, right? Sooo using interpretations from the "Delay of game warning or not" thread, we have a Live ball which is a dead ball, hence a foul on a dead ball which is a live ball so it is a common foul. Did i get it correct?????
RookieDude Hmmmmmmm, Dan_Ref...were you possibly thinking of a PC airborne shooter foul after the ball went in the basket? The ball would be dead when it went through the basket, then the airborne shooter crashes into the defender which has a legal spot on the floor. (NF) How's that? (I mean how do ya like me now? 😉 ) RD
Slider Let's try this: Airborne Shooter, Makes basket (ball dead), Is returning to floor, and is fouled by defense. But, don't listen to me, according to the delay thread, I don't know the rules.
RookieDude Nope Slider...unless the foul by the defender was intentional or flagrant...you ignore it because of the dead ball. RD
Dan_ref Originally posted by Bart Tyson Geeee i thought you would never pick me. OK, after a basket we have a dead ball, right? Now the ball is at the disposal to the throwerin, right? Sooo using interpretations from the "Delay of game warning or not" thread, we have a Live ball which is a dead ball, hence a foul on a dead ball which is a live ball so it is a common foul. Did i get it correct????? Ahh Bart, just when we all thought there was hope... Now go sit in the corner for 1 hour! And you can't go outside during recess!
Dan_ref Originally posted by RookieDude Hmmmmmmm, Dan_Ref...were you possibly thinking of a PC airborne shooter foul after the ball went in the basket? The ball would be dead when it went through the basket, then the airborne shooter crashes into the defender which has a legal spot on the floor. (NF) How's that? (I mean how do ya like me now? 😉 ) RD I like it, and I like you too! 🙂
Dan_ref Originally posted by Slider ... But, don't listen to me, according to the delay thread, I don't know the rules. Hey, you're starting to sound like my mother-in-law! 😉
bard 4-19-1 ...A personal foul also includes contact by or on an airborne shooter when the ball is dead.
bob jenkins Originally posted by RookieDude Nope Slider...unless the foul by the defender was intentional or flagrant...you ignore it because of the dead ball. RD RookieDude -- Better reread the rule book. Slider and (someone else -- I forgot who) got it right. If the shooter is still airborne, then fouls on or by him/her are personal fouls even after the ball is dead.
Bart Tyson Just curious, has anyone ever seen the dead ball foul. Can Air Jordon stay in the air long enough until after the ball goes through the hoop?
ChuckElias AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!! Now I see. Ok, I don't remember that being on any tests recently, tho. Originally posted by Dan_ref BTW, get my e-mail? Yes, thanks for the heads-up. I mailed back. Didn't you get it? Chuck
Camron Rust Originally posted by Bart Tyson Just curious, has anyone ever seen the dead ball foul. Can Air Jordon stay in the air long enough until after the ball goes through the hoop? Absolutely! On each and every sucessful dunk, the shooter is airborne after the ball is dead.