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ca_rumperee Thu Jan 10, 2008 01:38am

Yes, its another team control question!
 
My rule books are buried in the back seat and its too cold to go out and get them.

Team A has 7 team fouls. A1 is inbounding. A2 fouls B1 before the ball is inbounded.

I have B1 shooting a one-and-one. My partner says no, its a team control foul -- no shots.

I defer to the veteran.... but I don't think I should have.

just another ref Thu Jan 10, 2008 01:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca_rumperee
My rule books are buried in the back seat and its too cold to go out and get them.

Team A has 7 team fouls. A1 is inbounding. A2 fouls B1 before the ball is inbounded.

I have B1 shooting a one-and-one. My partner says no, its a team control foul -- no shots.

I defer to the veteran.... but I don't think I should have.

No team control on throw-in. Shoot the free throws.

HawkeyeCubP Thu Jan 10, 2008 02:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca_rumperee
My rule books are buried in the back seat and its too cold to go out and get them.

Team A has 7 team fouls. A1 is inbounding. A2 fouls B1 before the ball is inbounded.

I have B1 shooting a one-and-one. My partner says no, its a team control foul -- no shots.

I defer to the veteran.... but I don't think I should have.

That's an NCAA rule. As JAR stated, there's no team control during throw-in in Fed rules.

Nevadaref Thu Jan 10, 2008 06:09am

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP
That's an NCAA rule. As JAR stated, there's no team control during throw-in in Fed rules.

Rule references: 4-12-6 and Rules Fundamental #2 and 4.19.7 Sit C in the case book.

Loudwhistle Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:17am

Nevada,
How in the H*ll do you get the rules found so fast to support your posts? I'm assuming that you have some dvd or computer program with the rules and cases from the last 20+ years. I would be interested in purchasing software that has the rules, case plays etc. can you direct me to your source?

Thanks,
Loudwhistle

just another ref Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle
Nevada,
How in the H*ll do you get the rules found so fast to support your posts?

practice, practice, practice

Nevadaref Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle
Nevada,
How in the H*ll do you get the rules found so fast to support your posts? I'm assuming that you have some dvd or computer program with the rules and cases from the last 20+ years. I would be interested in purchasing software that has the rules, case plays etc. can you direct me to your source?

Thanks,
Loudwhistle

There are two reasons:
1. From posting on this forum over the past five years, I have become rather familiar with where certain things are in the books. I have a good memory for the headings and comments.

2. ARS rules study. It's awesome. It's indexed. It's searchable.
http://www.rules-study.com/

fullor30 Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
There are two reasons:
1. From posting on this forum over the past five years, I have become rather familiar with where certain things are in the books. I have a good memory for the headings and comments.

2. ARS rules study. It's awesome. It's indexed. It's searchable.
http://www.rules-study.com/


Just bought this last week and haven't had a chance to use it much other than quizzes. I can search by topic?

Nevadaref Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:55am

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Originally Posted by fullor30
Just bought this last week and haven't had a chance to use it much other than quizzes. I can search by topic?

Yep. By content (rule number and headings, sections, articles) or by keyword (find).

Dan_ref Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:59am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Yep. By content (rule number and headings, sections, articles) or by keyword (find).

And apparently it contains a fully indexed third world play interpretations case book, right Nevada?

Nevadaref Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:13pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
And apparently it contains a fully indexed third world play interpretations case book, right Nevada?

No, those come entirely from the depths of my own sick mind.;)

And what have you got against Brazil?

Dan_ref Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:23pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
No, those come entirely from the depths of my own sick mind.;)

:D

We FINALLY agree on something!!

rgncjn Thu Jan 10, 2008 02:12pm

I had this situation earlier this week in a junior high game. Coach A (whom I officiate with on the varsity circuit) was crying to me that I incorrectly awarded free throws to the opposition because it was an "offensive" foul.

I told him that there is no team control on the throw in, and he should know that since he is an official. He bought my explaination and we progressed through the rest of the game without any incident.


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