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PSidbury Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:58am

Possession after double foul...
 
Youth-league 14-15yr old girls playing NFHS rules (with a few modifications).

Team A has possession with guard dribbling above the 3-point arc.
In the lane an A player and B player start roughing each other with pushing and elbows somewhat simultaneously.
Double Foul is called on the elbowing players.
After foul administration, I say to my partner "A ball on the side." (since A's guard had control at time of fouls)

As I run down to take the lead position, B's coach is trying to tell me that it should be his ball because of alternating possession arrow.

I said, "No... A's non-involved guard had control at time of fouls, so A gets ball on side."

Coach gives me this long, you gotta be kidding me look and yells "C'mon, are you serious?"
I just give him that "Sorry, that's the way it is" shrug.

So, of course after the game in the comfort of my own home, I dig through the rule book and find 6-4-3g, which, if I am reading correctly, says that alternating possession can only occur if niether team had control at time of double foul. Since, at time of interruption, A-guard (whom was not involved in the fouls) had control, A gets ball.

So, two questions:
1) I did make the right call... right?
2) What if one of the fouling players had control of the ball? Does it still go to the team who had control at point of interruption?

Thanks,
Paul

jdw3018 Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:39pm

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Originally Posted by PSidbury
1) I did make the right call... right?

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSidbury
2) What if one of the fouling players had control of the ball? Does it still go to the team who had control at point of interruption?

It makes no difference - still back to A in your scenario.

Mregor Sat Jan 05, 2008 01:32pm

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Originally Posted by PSidbury
2) What if one of the fouling players had control of the ball? Does it still go to the team who had control at point of interruption?

Thanks,
Paul

That would be the dreaded blarge where you have a block on b1 and a PC on A1. You always resume play at point of interruption for double foul. If no one has control, that is when you go to the AP.

Adam Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:50am

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Originally Posted by Mregor
If no one has control, that is when you go to the AP.

With one exception.

Adam Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:51am

Just say, "Coach, they changed the rule."

Nevadaref Mon Jan 07, 2008 01:35am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
With one exception.

Try is in flight at time of the double foul and is eventually successful.

Adam Mon Jan 07, 2008 08:21am

Yup, that's the one. :)

jdw3018 Mon Jan 07, 2008 08:48am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
With one exception.

With one more exception - during a throw-in.

Didn't we just discuss this one? :D

Nevadaref Mon Jan 07, 2008 08:58am

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Originally Posted by jdw3018
With one more exception - during a throw-in.

Didn't we just discuss this one? :D

It is the same exception--during or when a team is entitled to a throw-in or FT.

You can think up hundreds of scenarios that fall within this.


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