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ace Fri Jan 04, 2008 01:30pm

Media Time Outs in HS
 
I had a game Wednesday where we had media time outs at the 4 min mark of each quarter. Theres no NFHS procedure for this, and I think there should be one that follows the NCAA procedures. The game was on radio.

FWIW, we did first dead ball after 4 minutes - if on a foul, after the free-throws, if second one missed, next dead ball....

Was kind of confusing because we had a deadball at 3:59 and the radio guy gave us the keep going signal, and then the clock stopped again at 3:51 and then the table gave us the sign......did 8 sec. really make that big of difference?

BktBallRef Fri Jan 04, 2008 01:35pm

We have radio for games quite often. I've never seen a media timeout.

bob jenkins Fri Jan 04, 2008 02:27pm

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Originally Posted by ace
I had a game Wednesday where we had media time outs at the 4 min mark of each quarter. Theres no NFHS procedure for this, and I think there should be one that follows the NCAA procedures. The game was on radio.

That's an option that's left up to the states (who may, in turn, leave it up to the conference / schools, etc.) See 5-12 NOTE

Coltdoggs Fri Jan 04, 2008 03:01pm

In HS when I was part of the T-comm class....we had to take our breaks when the game did, not the other way around :confused:

Interesting...

Mark Padgett Fri Jan 04, 2008 04:45pm

A bazillion years ago, I worked in radio in the Chicago suburb of Aurora. One of my many jobs there (that's how it is at small stations) was play-by-play of local HS football and basketball and a few college basketball games. We never got to take "media" timeouts, even for the college games. Sometimes, near the end of a game, if we were behind in getting in all the spots (radiospeak for "commercials"), we'd just read one during play if it got slow!

BTW - the other station in town had just lost their sports announcer to a bigger market. His name was Chick Hearn. I think I've heard of him since then. :rolleyes:

mkiogima Fri Jan 04, 2008 04:49pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
BTW - the other station in town had just lost their sports announcer to a bigger market. His name was Chick Hearn. I think I've heard of him since then. :rolleyes:

All right, I'm stupid. Who is Chick Hearn?

M&M Guy Fri Jan 04, 2008 04:52pm

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Originally Posted by mkiogima
All right, I'm stupid. Who is Chick Hearn?

He was the play-by-play announcer for the Lakers, before he retired recently. I believe he did over 3,000 Laker games, and was famous for inventing a couple of phrases now in use, such as "slam dunk".

mkiogima Fri Jan 04, 2008 04:55pm

Thanks M&M, at first I thought you were talking about Chick McGee from the Bob & Tom Show. It's seven minutes to quitting time and my brain is fried.

Mark Padgett Fri Jan 04, 2008 04:59pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
He was the play-by-play announcer for the Lakers, before he retired recently. I believe he did over 3,000 Laker games, and was famous for inventing a couple of phrases now in use, such as "slam dunk".

It was a lot more than just a "couple". Some we take for granted now were thought up by him including "garbage time". Here's a link:

http://www.abbaroo.com/lakers/chick.html

BTW - I guess he left Aurora about 10 years before I got there, but they still talked so much about him it seemed like he was just there. The guy truly was a sports broadcasting legend. And...I admit that even though I hate the Lakers.

fullor30 Fri Jan 04, 2008 05:14pm

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Originally Posted by ace
I had a game Wednesday where we had media time outs at the 4 min mark of each quarter. Theres no NFHS procedure for this, and I think there should be one that follows the NCAA procedures. The game was on radio.

FWIW, we did first dead ball after 4 minutes - if on a foul, after the free-throws, if second one missed, next dead ball....

Was kind of confusing because we had a deadball at 3:59 and the radio guy gave us the keep going signal, and then the clock stopped again at 3:51 and then the table gave us the sign......did 8 sec. really make that big of difference?


I had a TV game several years back which was broadcast on the local PBS station in Chicago and we never had TV time outs. Probably because PBS is commercial free.

Mark Padgett Fri Jan 04, 2008 05:29pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
Probably because PBS is commercial free.

Not during "pledge week". ;)

MCJB Ump Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:09am

Did the book for a girls team here in Ohio at the state championships a couple years ago and there were also TV timeouts at the 4 minute mark. Coaches never used any of their regular TOs.

Mark Padgett Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:30am

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Originally Posted by MCJB Ump
Coaches never used any of their regular TOs.

Thank you for not saying "coaches never called any of their regular TOs." ;)

BktBallRef Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:43am

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Originally Posted by mkiogima
All right, I'm stupid. Who is Chick Hearn?

OMIGOD! :eek:

"The game's in the refrigerator. The door's closed, the light's out, the eggs are cooling, the butter's getting hard, and the Jell-O's jiggling." :D

BktBallRef Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:48am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
It was a lot more than just a "couple". Some we take for granted now were thought up by him including "garbage time". Here's a link:

http://www.abbaroo.com/lakers/chick.html

"air ball"

"charity stripe"

"throws up a brick"

fullor30 Sat Jan 05, 2008 07:19pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Not during "pledge week". ;)

If it was on during pledge week, they might have had me wear a striped Mr. Rogers(R.I.P) sweater vest.

fullor30 Sat Jan 05, 2008 07:22pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
OMIGOD! :eek:

"The game's in the refrigerator. The door's closed, the light's out, the eggs are cooling, the butter's getting hard, and the Jell-O's jiggling." :D

Ditto on "Oh My God" An Illinois boy I believe; People, know your basketball history!

voiceoflg Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:07pm

I wish we had media timeouts (times out? But that's another argument all together) in HS football games. I'd settle for uniform 60 seconds for charged timeouts.

Rich Sun Jan 06, 2008 01:41am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
He was the play-by-play announcer for the Lakers, before he retired recently. I believe he did over 3,000 Laker games, and was famous for inventing a couple of phrases now in use, such as "slam dunk".

Actually he's been dead going on 5.5 years.

M&M Guy Mon Jan 07, 2008 09:43am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
Actually he's been dead going on 5.5 years.

I'm never any good at the "Dead or Alive?" game.

I knew he was retired. Does that count for anything?

Jurassic Referee Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:20am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I knew he was retired. Does that count for anything?

Most dead people are.

Scrapper1 Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:43am

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Originally Posted by voiceoflg
But that's another argument all together

BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ARGUMENT. . .

What? I'm the only one? What happened to "all together"? :(

http://movies.pop-cult.com/images/airplane.jpg

M&M Guy Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:04am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Most dead people are.

You forget - I'm from the Chicago area. I know a lot of dead people that still work at City Hall...

M&M Guy Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:05am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ARGUMENT. . .

What? I'm the only one? What happened to "all together"? :(

http://movies.pop-cult.com/images/airplane.jpg

You sure picked a fine day to stop sniffing glue.

Brad Mon Jan 07, 2008 03:21pm

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Originally Posted by ace
FWIW, we did first dead ball after 4 minutes - if on a foul, after the free-throws, if second one missed, next dead ball....

No... You did the first whistle after 4 minutes... Do you see why? :)

I think they should just use the NCAA rule and freeze the shooter rather than waiting if you have free throws - that would make things a lot simpler! Also, be sure to get your shooter before going to the timeout!

Welpe Mon Jan 07, 2008 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
You forget - I'm from the Chicago area. I know a lot of dead people that still work at City Hall...

No, they're not truly dead, they just act like it while at work. They're city government employees after all.

Jurassic Referee Mon Jan 07, 2008 04:22pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
You forget - I'm from the Chicago area. I know a lot of dead people that still work at City Hall...

And vote....

fullor30 Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:08pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And vote....


.....early and often.

BillyMac Mon Jan 07, 2008 07:09pm

Vote Early, Vote Often
 
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
You forget - I'm from the Chicago area. I know a lot of dead people that still work at City Hall...

You probably also know a lot of dead people that vote in elections.

Scrapper1 Tue Jan 08, 2008 09:07am

I see dead voters. . .

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