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Josh Ovens Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:19pm

situation 1. A1 is dribbling in the backcourt and brings the ball across the division line, and all 3 points are over, so the ball has obtained front court status. A1 then passes to A2, but it is tipped by B1, and the touched by A2 in the frontcourt causing it to go into the backcourt, and A1 grabs the ball inthe back court. is it bakcourt violation?

situation 2. A1 shoots the ball and it goes off the backboard, tips A2's hand and goes into the backcourt. if any of A's teammates get the ball, is it backcourt??
i know on the shot, there is no team possession, so i was wanting to know if A2 touches it in the front court, does that give the ball front court status, as well as team control for A therefore not allowing the ball to be touched in the backcourt with out violating??

mick Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:45pm

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Originally posted by Josh Ovens
situation 1. A1 is dribbling in the backcourt and brings the ball across the division line, and all 3 points are over, so the ball has obtained front court status. A1 then passes to A2, but it is tipped by B1, and the touched by A2 in the frontcourt causing it to go into the backcourt, and A1 grabs the ball inthe back court. is it bakcourt violation?

situation 2. A1 shoots the ball and it goes off the backboard, tips A2's hand and goes into the backcourt. if any of A's teammates get the ball, is it backcourt??
i know on the shot, there is no team possession, so i was wanting to know if A2 touches it in the front court, does that give the ball front court status, as well as team control for A therefore not allowing the ball to be touched in the backcourt with out violating??

Josh,
Sitch 1.] Even though B touched the ball, Team Control remained with A. So yes, this is a back court violation.

Sitch 2.] Even though A2 touched the ball there was no Team control by A. So, no, the retrieving of the ball by Team A is not a back court violation.

mick

BktBallRef Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:46am

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Mark Padgett Mon Feb 11, 2002 01:51am

I'm not going to take the time (again) to post the four elements required to have this call, but please try to remember that during a period of no team control, a team gains control when a player gains player control. Player control is defined as holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. A bat or tap is not holding or dribbling.

Also remember that loss of player control does not mean loss of team control.

Thank you for your support.

Jurassic Referee Mon Feb 11, 2002 06:16am

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Thank you for your support. [/B]
Why?Did someone finally send you that truss that you need at your age?:D

ChuckElias Mon Feb 11, 2002 09:41am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Thank you for your support.
Why?Did someone finally send you that truss that you need at your age?:D [/B]
JR, I think he was having an 80's flashback to those Bartles & James commercials. :)

Chuck

BktBallRef Mon Feb 11, 2002 10:15am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Why?Did someone finally send you that truss that you need at your age?:D
JR, I think he was having an 80's flashback to those Bartles & James commercials. :)

Chuck

Chuck, go easy on Woody. I hear that, at his age, your memory is one of the first things to go. :)

mick Mon Feb 11, 2002 10:43am

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Why?Did someone finally send you that truss that you need at your age?:D
JR, I think he was having an 80's flashback to those Bartles & James commercials. :)

Chuck

Chuck, go easy on Woody. I hear that, at his age, your memory is one of the first things to go. :)

Also knees, eyes, ...the willingness to put up with kids and some other stuff, but I forget.

Jurassic Referee Mon Feb 11, 2002 02:11pm

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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Why?Did someone finally send you that truss that you need at your age?:D
JR, I think he was having an 80's flashback to those Bartles & James commercials. :)

Chuck

Chuck, go easy on Woody. I hear that, at his age, your memory is one of the first things to go. :)

Also knees, eyes, ...the willingness to put up with kids and some other stuff, but I forget.

Actually,all of you have missed what is really THE most important thing you lose with age(not counting new miracle meds,of course)!:eek:That's when you WANT to forget!Need I say more?

mick Mon Feb 11, 2002 02:42pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Actually,all of you have missed what is really THE most important thing you lose with age(not counting new miracle meds,of course)!:eek:That's when you WANT to forget!Need I say more?
JR,
Nobody else knew that!
mick


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