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Old Fri Dec 21, 2007, 04:57pm
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I don't allow ANY gesturing, and only a few words, if spoken respectfully, from players who are complaining about calls. My only exception to the gesturing part is towards the end of an intense game, I may choose to ignore an "involuntary- due to great emotional involvement" gesture, as long as it was not obviously directed towards an official.

Two examples....towards the end of an extremely competitive playoff game, I saw an official T a player for slapping the floor (from a prone position) after losing a ball out of bounds. In my mind this was unnecessary. In the other example, same atmosphere, State Tourney, a girl, after getting called for a travel, bounced the ball hard to the floor, missed the ricochet, and the ball bounced high over her head. Officials chose to "look the other way".

What do you think?
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Old Fri Dec 21, 2007, 05:40pm
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Two examples....towards the end of an extremely competitive playoff game, I saw an official T a player for slapping the floor (from a prone position) after losing a ball out of bounds. In my mind this was unnecessary. In the other example, same atmosphere, State Tourney, a girl, after getting called for a travel, bounced the ball hard to the floor, missed the ricochet, and the ball bounced high over her head. Officials chose to "look the other way".

What do you think?
Both reactions came from frustration on the player's part. In #1, the player was frustrated at him/herself for committing a turnover. In #2, the player was frustrated at the official's call. Big difference.

Imo, if any calls were to be made, the calls should have been reversed. Look the other way on the player who isn't showing up an official; call a "T" on the player that is.
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Old Fri Dec 21, 2007, 05:46pm
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IF you are going to talk to a coach about it, don't use the "or else it will be an automatic T." You've just put yourself into a box that you can't get out of.

IF you are going to talk to him, make it a friendly warning, "Coach, I've noticed some of your players starting to show some frustration. Could you mention it please? I just don't want it to get to a point where I have to make a decision."

I like the "make a decision line" because it puts the onus back on you rather than shifting the responsibility to him.
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Old Fri Dec 21, 2007, 08:48pm
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IF you are going to talk to a coach about it, don't use the "or else it will be an automatic T." You've just put yourself into a box that you can't get out of.

IF you are going to talk to him, make it a friendly warning, "Coach, I've noticed some of your players starting to show some frustration. Could you mention it please? I just don't want it to get to a point where I have to make a decision."

I like the "make a decision line" because it puts the onus back on you rather than shifting the responsibility to him.
Perfect. KBilla is correct, too, it can go either way. But when you are at the point where a T is looming, do you have a lot to lose? I also agree with JR. Tough to pass on a ball spike. Even I would not. OK, JR, hope you were sitting down when you read that.
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