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kbilla Fri Dec 21, 2007 02:44pm

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Originally Posted by Y2Koach
I coach at the high school level so it may be different with dealing with younger kids, but in the rare instances we've been blown out, I tell my guys there is something to be learned from taking your whooping like a man. Remember how it feels to be whooped and how helpless it feels, and practice your butt off to make sure it never happens again. You can't classlessly take your frustration out on the other team because they're supposed to try to beat you. And if they are really that much better, faster, stronger, more skilled, you should take advantage of the 8 minutes of "scrimmage" time against athletes that we can't duplicate in our own practices. Several years back, my merry band of JV guys were getting our butts kicked in a Varsity summer league (our var guys had an SAT prep course). We were down by 30+ Mid-way through the 3rd Qtr, and the opposing team stopped pressing. During a time-out, I asked the opposing coach to let his guys keep pressing us. By about 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter, we were able to manage their pressure and actually get some layups. The opposing coach looks at me and tells his guys to call off the press.

During the season that year, we were in a tournament with this same team, and we were playing in a game right before that opposing team was supposed to play, so they were there watching us. We shredded the other teams press and won by 20+. As we were leaving the floor, a couple of my players walked by that opposing coach from the summer and thanked him for pressing and helping them learn how to break the press. When we played them the following day in the semi-finals, they pressed us for a total of 1 minute 12 seconds. The 6 pts we scored off their press were the only 6 pts we managed in the first quarter. They beat us by about 7 or so, but didn't press us for the rest of the game. That coach has vowed not to listen to anything I say every again...

True story?:)

JugglingReferee Fri Dec 21, 2007 02:56pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
What do you think? Should he have done this or not? Note this is a competitive, not strictly recreational league.

If it is a competitive league, then the stronger team should still try their best. Perhaps they could have put in their second stringers.

Y2Koach Fri Dec 21, 2007 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by kbilla
True story?:)

Actual factually true story...

Back In The Saddle Fri Dec 21, 2007 03:17pm

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Originally Posted by Y2Koach
Actual factually true story...

Which means....? :D

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 21, 2007 03:43pm

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Originally Posted by Y2Koach
Actual factually true story...

Everything is satisfactual.....Zippedydoodah.....zippedy ay....

mbyron Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:31pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Everything is satisfactual.....Zippedydoodah.....zippedy ay....

My brother once dated a girl named Duda ("doodah"). I thought it would be funny if she married a guy surnamed Day, cause then she could be Duda-Day.

If she later made a perfume line, naturally it would be called Eau de Duda-Day.

fullor30 Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:56pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron
My brother once dated a girl named Duda ("doodah"). I thought it would be funny if she married a guy surnamed Day, cause then she could be Duda-Day.

If she later made a perfume line, naturally it would be called Eau de Duda-Day.

Reminds me of Wellington Mara's(old owner of the NY football Giants) daughter Minnie who married Dickie Thon of the Astros.

She became Minnie Mara Thon.

Texas Aggie Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:11am

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I understand the V coach's sentiments
I don't.

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Competitive league, well, he made the other kids feel like fools.
BS. This is a damned if you do, damned if you don't. The winning coach isn't responsible for the other team, only his team and his actions. You can agree or disagree with those actions in terms of what you would have done, but there was nothing wrong with them. He made a decision based on his info at that point, and did what he had to do. You can't make 8th grade girls understand the "just back off, but make it look good", or if they do understand, they aren't likely to do it well. At any rate, he deserves a pass on this and if the V coach is upset, that's his problem.

Had this jerk (V) said that to me, I would have said, "OK, next time, we're going to run your face into the ground," and walked away. V coach had no business saying anything, regardless of talent, skill, or other issues.

Sorry for the rough tone, but I'm sick and damn tired of these blowout sub varsity games. I just wonder if some schools need to drop from competition their teams that, like this one, just aren't competitive. I'm not talking about a few blow out losses; I'm speaking of teams like this. Unfortunately, I've seen one or two of these this year. I had a varsity girls game 2 Mondays ago involving 2 private schools where the H team go blown out. This past Monday, I'm back there and now they are playing a public school in Texas' largest classification. First quarter score: H 24, V 2.

MichaelVA2000 Sat Dec 22, 2007 04:03pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron
My brother once dated a girl named Duda ("doodah"). I thought it would be funny if she married a guy surnamed Day, cause then she could be Duda-Day.

If she later made a perfume line, naturally it would be called Eau de Duda-Day.

Had Kitty Wells married Conway Twitty, she could have been Kitty Twitty. If they had a child it could have been named Lil'Biddy Twitty.


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