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Mark Dexter Fri Feb 08, 2002 11:21pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
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B1 is in (or will be in) a position such that, if there were contact with A1, B1 would be charged with a foul. If A1 changes his path and there is no contact, there is no foul on B1 for forcing A1 to change his path.
Are you studying contract law? :eek:

How about this: "While standing in someone's path may be an illegal position, there is NO foul unless/until contact is made." :p
No - I think that's my problem. I'll stop by the law school on Monday to see how this should be worded :).

BktBallRef Sat Feb 09, 2002 12:27am

Re: Yikes!! I'm gonna git in trouble again
 
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Originally posted by egausch
So, for the above play, with no contact, the basket should have counted and no whistle!?!?
EG

Coach, to have a personal foul, you must have contact. I had some knucklehead in the stands tonight yelling "Illegal screen! Illegal screen!" I replied, "Did you see any contact!?!" Guess what? No response.

The same thing happens when a taller player jumps, reaches over a shorter player and takes a rebound. "Over the back! Over the back!" Besides the fact that there's no such thing s "Over the back!", it's not a foul is there's no contact. Even if there is contact, it can be incidental, if no one is displaced.

I'm on a roll now so I'll add... :)

Early in the thrid qtr. each of my partners calls a foul on the visiting team for undercutting an opponent who went up for a rebound. In both cases, the fouler was backing up. Know what the coach said? Yep! "He's blocking out!" "Coach, when he's displacing the player behind him, he's not blocking out. He's backing him out and it's a foul." :(

I'm off my soapbox now. :p

Kelvin green Sun Feb 10, 2002 12:39pm

my two cents.

1) there is no such thing as a moving screen.. It's either illegal or not.

2) Can a player set a screen? still be moving? and there be contact and not a foul? I believe the anser is yes!

A1 is in transition to the baket. A2 is about a two steps behind A1, and B1 is just behind A2. A2 slows her running down that causes B1 to bump into A2, and A1 makes an easy uncontested layup. This is a good play A1 is entitiled to the spot, and did not change path, direction etc. just slowed down. I have heard coaches yell that's a moving screen.... Oh well

Mark Dexter Sun Feb 10, 2002 12:46pm

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Originally posted by Kelvin green

A1 is in transition to the baket. A2 is about a two steps behind A1, and B1 is just behind A2. A2 slows her running down that causes B1 to bump into A2, and A1 makes an easy uncontested layup. This is a good play A1 is entitiled to the spot, and did not change path, direction etc. just slowed down. I have heard coaches yell that's a moving screen.... Oh well

Classic play from 10-3-6d. If the guy in front slows down, contact is the responsibility of the guy following.

egausch Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:04am

FYI
 
Here's another NF rules reference to support this thread.
4.C.2 in Points of Emphasis:
"It is not a moving screen unless there is contact"
FYI,
EG


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