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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 07:19pm
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Hey, it looks like all ball to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahhum...eature=related

Wow..........
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 07:23pm
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At least intentional.
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 07:41pm
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Yup, at least intentional for excessive contact. depending on the game flow, possibly flagrant as well.
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 07:44pm
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Yup, at least intentional for excessive contact. depending on the game flow, possibly flagrant as well.
Absolutely! Luckily the girl didn't appear to be hurt.....
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 09:13pm
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The best part is the comment from someone in the stands who says, "If that's not a technical, I don't know what is". Guess what - he "doesn't know what is".
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 09:21pm
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It must be friggin' cold in that gym...not only is the coach wearing a hoodie but has the hood up.
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2007, 07:43pm
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Looks like an intentional personal foul for excessive contact to me.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 09:53am
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Clearly an intentional. Borderline flagrant.

As to the administering official, it looks to me that it's possible that he's talking to one or two of the players and holding the ball so that the coach can't overhear what he's saying. Possibly telling a captain to get the fouler under control or something. I don't know.

I also agree with the "criticism" of the calling official not coming closer to the girls on the floor to make sure there's no extra activity.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 12:51pm
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Clearly an intentional. Borderline flagrant.

As to the administering official, it looks to me that it's possible that he's talking to one or two of the players and holding the ball so that the coach can't overhear what he's saying. Possibly telling a captain to get the fouler under control or something. I don't know.

I also agree with the "criticism" of the calling official not coming closer to the girls on the floor to make sure there's no extra activity.

To my eye, on the tape alone, it's flagrant. Would I have called it if I was there? I'd like to think I would. Not knowing what preceded all this I can only comment on the foul itself. It helped matters that the shooter bounced right up and luckily wasn't hurt.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 01:43pm
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Rookie,

I am giving a possible explanation. I tend to be a person that asks a lot of questions even when I am not 100% sure one way or another on what actually took place. I have no idea if that is what he is doing one way or another. It did look like a 2 man game but I could not completely tell that for sure based on the video. I am purely guessing as to what the official is doing. It is very possible that you are right. I am just giving the benefit of the doubt without better information. Of course I do not expect better information as the fact that none of us taped the video.

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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 01:56pm
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Why are we giving the brunt to the Lead? The trail in that situation (if it was indeed 2 person) needs to bust in and help out. All the lead saw was the defender's backside. The TRAIL had the best angle on the play, and should have come in strong if he felt it was intentional. Or at least conferred with the Lead if he felt the lead missed it.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 02:02pm
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Why are we giving the brunt to the Lead? The trail in that situation (if it was indeed 2 person) needs to bust in and help out. All the lead saw was the defender's backside. The TRAIL had the best angle on the play, and should have come in strong if he felt it was intentional. Or at least conferred with the Lead if he felt the lead missed it.
If you consider this to be a non-basketball play, I have no problem with another official coming in and making this call with the lead. I do not consider this to be non-basketball related BTW.

Even if that was the case, the Lead should not be in a hurry to go report. One of the biggest problems that official's get themselves into is when the ball is dead and not recognizing when things can get out of hand. This was a perfect opportunity for a fight or a fight later in the game which we have no idea if this happened again in the game.

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