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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:19pm
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Unsporting Foul

Question: I know the rules say something to the effect that an Unsporting Foul is a non contact technical foul...

Help me to understand does the Unsporting Foul count in the scorebook as a common foul or Technical foul?

And if Technical foul it will count against the player's limit of 2 Technicals correct?

How many times have you actually seen a ref call an Unsporting Foul for Face Guarding?



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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:21pm
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Question: I know the rules say something to the effect that an Unsporting Foul is a non contact technical foul...

Help me to understand does the Unsporting Foul count in the scorebook as a common foul or Technical foul?

And if Technical foul it will count against the player's limit of 2 Technicals correct?

How many times have you actually seen a ref call an Unsporting Foul for Face Guarding?



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Ha ha called one last week! Yes it is a technical foul, counts as a team foul towards bonus as well as a players 2 technicals for ejection.....
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:23pm
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Ha ha called one last week! Yes it is a technical foul, counts as a team foul towards bonus as well as a players 2 technicals for ejection.....
It also counts as one of the five fouls toward a player's disqualification.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:52pm
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It also counts as one of the five fouls toward a player's disqualification.
true as well
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:27pm
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That rule for face guarding has only been around for a couple of years. Or the clarification has been around only for a couple of years. I have seen what would be clearly called a T today a few times in my career. None since the rule was change/clarified.

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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:36pm
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Reason I ask is I called a few of these in Adult Rec games and the players act like I've just made up the rule out of thin air. LOL!

I tell the player when you defend a shot and put your hands straight up you're fine, but when you intentionally extend your arms 45 degrees and delibertly attempt to cover the shooters eyes it is an Unsporting Foul.

To be honest when I first started calling these I reported it as a foul...now I give em' the "T".
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Reason I ask is I called a few of these in Adult Rec games and the players act like I've just made up the rule out of thin air. LOL!

I tell the player when you defend a shot and put your hands straight up you're fine, but when you intentionally extend your arms 45 degrees and delibertly attempt to cover the shooters eyes it is an Unsporting Foul.

To be honest when I first started calling these I reported it as a foul...now I give em' the "T".
Good call, imo.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 12:42pm
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Reason I ask is I called a few of these in Adult Rec games and the players act like I've just made up the rule out of thin air. LOL!

I tell the player when you defend a shot and put your hands straight up you're fine, but when you intentionally extend your arms 45 degrees and delibertly attempt to cover the shooters eyes it is an Unsporting Foul.

To be honest when I first started calling these I reported it as a foul...now I give em' the "T".
They can block their vision, they just cannot put their hands or arms directly in their face. I hope you are not calling it because they are trying to block vision. The purpose of the rule is to prevent people from poking opponents in the eyes or directly in the face. This is not a penalty because someone just simply held their hand up.

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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 02:10pm
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They can block their vision, they just cannot put their hands or arms directly in their face. I hope you are not calling it because they are trying to block vision. The purpose of the rule is to prevent people from poking opponents in the eyes or directly in the face. This is not a penalty because someone just simply held their hand up.

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JR I respect your input so let me further explain:

On a shot, If B2 extends his arm 45 degrees and puts his hand 1 inch away from A2's face, I believe the face guarding rule applies warranting the Unsporting Foul.

On a shot, If B2's defensive position is 1 inch from A2 and B2 puts his hands straight up and cover's A2's face then I believe this would be legal due to the rule of verticality being that B2 has a right to his vertical space.

Also, what is "face guarding" other than attempting to obstruct the vision of the opponent? It is illegal in football, baseball, and basketball.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2007, 03:07pm
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Reason I ask is I called a few of these in Adult Rec games and the players act like I've just made up the rule out of thin air. LOL!

I tell the player when you defend a shot and put your hands straight up you're fine, but when you intentionally extend your arms 45 degrees and delibertly attempt to cover the shooters eyes it is an Unsporting Foul.

To be honest when I first started calling these I reported it as a foul...now I give em' the "T".
If you called a "few" of these, and there have been others that you didn't call, it's likely that you're "over applying" the rule. That is, what you are seeing isn't really a technical foul.
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Question: I know the rules say something to the effect that an Unsporting Foul is a non contact technical foul...

Help me to understand does the Unsporting Foul count in the scorebook as a common foul or Technical foul?

And if Technical foul it will count against the player's limit of 2 Technicals correct?

How many times have you actually seen a ref call an Unsporting Foul for Face Guarding?



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I have not seen one yet, but I am sure I will sooner or later.
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