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Scooby Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:05pm

Held Ball Mechanics?
 
When you have a held ball situation do you go up with an open hand then the thumbs or just the thumbs?

refnrev Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:14pm

Thumbs up! However I used have a one partner who'd go up with a touchdown sign.... by the way he was a state finals football umpire several times.

refnrev Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:50pm

Scooby, Check on the T-Mechanics thread, post #30 by Mark Padgett. That should be a lot of help.:)

Scooby Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:15am

Nice...Thanks

bob jenkins Sat Dec 01, 2007 09:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby
When you have a held ball situation do you go up with an open hand then the thumbs or just the thumbs?

See NFHS Signal #3, titled "Stop clock for jump/held ball"

Mark Dexter Sat Dec 01, 2007 09:37am

The official signal is, as Bob Jenkins said, #3 - the thumbs up.

However, I've had several evaluators (camps & otherwise) who say to give the open-palm stop clock signal, then give the thumbs up for a held ball. They say that it can reduce problems if you have a double whistle and your partner thinks there was a violation or foul before the held ball.

That said, do what's accepted in your area.

Mark Dexter Sat Dec 01, 2007 09:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by refnrev
Thumbs up! However I used have a one partner who'd go up with a touchdown sign.... by the way he was a state finals football umpire several times.

That's odd. An umpire should never even come close to making that signal! :p

kbilla Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
The official signal is, as Bob Jenkins said, #3 - the thumbs up.

However, I've had several evaluators (camps & otherwise) who say to give the open-palm stop clock signal, then give the thumbs up for a held ball. They say that it can reduce problems if you have a double whistle and your partner thinks there was a violation or foul before the held ball.

That said, do what's accepted in your area.

HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS! I picked up this mechanic last year and it has helped me out of several double whistles since then...whether it be a timeout about to be granted by a parnter, a foul...you come right up with the thumbs and he/she comes in with a foul you have a problem...

Scooby Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
The official signal is, as Bob Jenkins said, #3 - the thumbs up.

However, I've had several evaluators (camps & otherwise) who say to give the open-palm stop clock signal, then give the thumbs up for a held ball. They say that it can reduce problems if you have a double whistle and your partner thinks there was a violation or foul before the held ball.

That said, do what's accepted in your area.

An official gave me the same rationale last night. But my question is, what is the Federation mechanics?

Mark Padgett Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by refnrev
However I used have a one partner who'd go up with a touchdown sign....

Good grief! If he gives the touchdown signal for a held ball, I'd hate to see what he does to signal a successful 3 pointer!!! Maybe something like this?

http://www.moco.org/images/pic01.jpg

kbilla Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by refnrev
Thumbs up! However I used have a one partner who'd go up with a touchdown sign.... by the way he was a state finals football umpire several times.

ha ha i have seen this before...usually by an old timer...did this use to be the signal (perhaps before the 3-pt shot?)

Mark Padgett Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbilla
ha ha i have seen this before...usually by an old timer...did this use to be the signal (perhaps before the 3-pt shot?)

Yes. Dr. Naismith showed it to me personally. ;)

Mark Dexter Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby
An official gave me the same rationale last night. But my question is, what is the Federation mechanics?

What Bob Jenkins said - the held ball (thumbs-in-the-air) signal is the stop-the-clock signal.


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