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secondregionbug Fri Nov 30, 2007 03:42pm

Another Question??????
 
Two violations occure when an offensive player occupy the first lane space and a defense player occupy the second? T or F

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Nov 30, 2007 03:44pm

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Originally Posted by secondregionbug
Two violations occure when an offensive player occupy the first lane space and a defense player occupy the second? T or F


False, just one.

MTD,Sr.


edited response: What the heck was I thinking when I posted this response and why didn't anybody take me to task for my grossly incorrect answer.

Vinski Fri Nov 30, 2007 03:49pm

It is one, but it is a simultanious violation.

9.1.2 SITUATION B

bob jenkins Fri Nov 30, 2007 03:56pm

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Originally Posted by secondregionbug
Two violations occure when an offensive player occupy the first lane space and a defense player occupy the second? T or F

Taking a test?

Back In The Saddle Fri Nov 30, 2007 03:57pm

It would be two, simultaneous violations, would it not? One for the offensive player occupying the first spot; the second for the defense not occupying that spot.

TwoDot Fri Nov 30, 2007 04:00pm

One violation, one error. On the official that allowed them to line up like that!

Back In The Saddle Fri Nov 30, 2007 04:01pm

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Originally Posted by Vinski
It is one, but it is a simultanious violation.

9.1.2 SITUATION B

How can one of anything be simultaneous? :cool:

Bearfanmike20 Fri Nov 30, 2007 04:03pm

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Originally Posted by TwoDot
One violation, one error. On the official that allowed them to line up like that!

LOL.. this is a good response.

Dont administer the ball till they are set. Preventative officiating. ;)

Vinski Fri Nov 30, 2007 05:29pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
How can one of anything be simultaneous? :cool:

Well, that is a good point. I was noting that the situation calls it a "simultaneous violation". But you're right; to have a simultaneous violation there has to be 2 violations.

Wouldn’t the answer to OP’s question then be true?

Back In The Saddle Fri Nov 30, 2007 06:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinski
Well, that is a good point. I was noting that the situation calls it a "simultaneous violation". But you're right; to have a simultaneous violation there has to be 2 violations.

Wouldn’t the answer to OP’s question then be true?

I believe the answer to the OP's question is true. The defensive player being in the 2nd spot is not a violation, he can be there if the offense doesn't choose to use that spot. But it is a simultaneous violation for the offense to be in the 1st spot.

BillyMac Fri Nov 30, 2007 07:58pm

Double Violation
 
From secondregionbug: "Two violations occur when an offensive player occupy the first lane space...? T or F

True, double violation. Violation for defensive player not being in the first lane space. Violation for offensive player being in the first lane space.

mbyron Sat Dec 01, 2007 09:26am

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Originally Posted by Vinski
It is one, but it is a simultanious violation.

9.1.2 SITUATION B

Self-simultaneity? Not to get overly metaphysical, but isn't every event simultaneous with itself?

Ist du, Ernst?

IREFU2 Sat Dec 01, 2007 09:43am

Yup, sounds like test questions.....:)

Nevadaref Sun Dec 02, 2007 03:11am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
I believe the answer to the OP's question is true. The defensive player being in the 2nd spot is not a violation, he can be there if the offense doesn't choose to use that spot. But it is a simultaneous violation for the offense to be in the 1st spot.

Don't you also have a violation for the two defensive players failing to occupy the spaces next to the basket? ;)

Indianaref Sun Dec 02, 2007 09:34am

yes. simultanious violation

Back In The Saddle Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:43am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Don't you also have a violation for the two defensive players failing to occupy the spaces next to the basket? ;)

Perhaps I misread the question. I inferred from the question that it was only one offensive player in the first spot, thus one simultaneous violation -- one on the offense for occupying the first spot; one on the defense for failing to occupy that spot.

If both first spots were occupied by offensive players, then you have two simultaneous violations. But the outcome is the same either way.

bob jenkins Sun Dec 02, 2007 09:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
Perhaps I misread the question. I inferred from the question that it was only one offensive player in the first spot, thus one simultaneous violation -- one on the offense for occupying the first spot; one on the defense for failing to occupy that spot.

If both first spots were occupied by offensive players, then you have two simultaneous violations. But the outcome is the same either way.

Not true.

Without getting into the semantics about whether it's "one" or "two" violations, it's the same whether A occupies one or both of the lower spots.


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