:D

It only would take once ,and as B1 I would gladly take that foul. I guaranty A1 would back off after that - especially with gauze in his nose. Wouldn't even be intentional or flagrant - to the best refs.

I might even offer a hand to A1 to help him up. ;)

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These are two of the most classless posts that I've ever read on the forum. To advocate that one player should intentionally injure another is totally disgusting.:mad:
If you really believe this garbage, then get away from HS sports.

Also all "the best refs" out there certainly would deem this a flagrant foul.

So they're required to utter unpleasantries? :p

Nevada, perhaps these were just badly worded, and he didn't mean anything quite so egregious as would be certainly deemed flagrant?? We might give him the benefit of the doubt until we know more...

No doubt about it. He is clearly advocating headhunting and hurting the opponent. :(

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Second, if I were B1, and a defender was nose to nose with me, I would run him over or make my V-cut head first....or reach for a pass arms head high...

Get my drift?
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It only would take once ,and as B1 I would gladly take that foul. I guaranty A1 would back off after that - especially with gauze in his nose.
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MeRef? Care to comment?

Please tell me that you're not really an official.

Please.

Amen.

Sure, I'll comment. First, I am not advocating anything. Did you see me say HE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS OR THAT? Nope. Matter of fact, I said he should try to get or turn away.

My subsequent comments were from the perspective of a former Division 1-AA college player, who routinely dealt with this sort of juvenile intimidation tactics. I actually said [Second, if I were B1,]. Maybe I should have put that in a clearer perspective. Even then, if NevadeRef thinks that players don't "run opponents over" then he needs to watch a game or two - like maybe what happened to Steve Nash. Certainly that was the reverse situation and flagrant in my book, but you get the point.

I was making the point that if you want to get in my grill, there are physical hazards to doing so. I am not going to give you a wide berth and give up my rightful place on the court. And, no, the best refs out there won't catch half of it or if they do, the college players are smart enough to make it look like an accident.

Certainly you see my last comment about helping him up was in humor.

Again, not advocating anything. You will also note I said FIRST that the coach should alert the refs to a blocking situation.

It reminds me of a situation with my older relatives when I was a teenager. We would play driveway ball against the 30-somethings. The first time we (my brother and I) challenged my older cousins, I drove to the hoop to stuff on him and he bodied me so hard - no arm contact at all - that it knocked me into the grass. I jumped up and yelled "Hey, that was a foul!!!" He replied, Yep, I guess you're right, your ball over there." I never drove on him again. :D

I eon't think Nevada said it didn't happen. I think he said it's illegal. NBA plays aren't generally relevant to discussions here. This particular thread, eg, is regarding HS rules.

Gotta admit, that does sound more like a threat than I was hoping. No player should be contemplating physical violence


If you mean that literally, yea, the best refs better catch that! It's illegal and stupid.
If refs miss that kind of thing, they'll be back to JH in a flash.

The best refs out there do catch way more than half of it, or they don't keep their positions. The ref's job is to stop this kind of crap.

Coach should notify refs? No, refs should see the plays, and call the illegal blocks. Coaches should coach their players how to legally increase their opportunities to score and their skills in doing so.

Physical hazards for playing <b>legal</b> defense? Physical hazards?

You answered my question. You're not an official. You may masquerade as one occasionally but you're not an official.

Just another rec league warrior. Seen a million of 'em.....

Ok, now lets talk rules. Much better. According to the original post, the defender was not giving proper time and distance to the player in several instances he mentioned. That is a block, not a legal defense. Don't twist the situation to make it fit your point.

What usually happens on hard blocks or charges???

Quote from OP, please?

Ok, if you say so.