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JRutledge Thu Nov 15, 2007 08:47pm

Message sent......So far
 
I have watched about 4 or 5 NCAA basketball games on TV and it is clear that the bench decorum message has been received. I have barely seen a coach even get off the bench let alone complain about anything. And in some cases there have been some tough calls and you do not even see a reaction.

The most I have seen is John Calhoun was coaching and his foot was on the line. That is the first time I saw a coach that was "technically" out of the box. It seems like the coaches have adjusted.

Peace

Nevadaref Thu Nov 15, 2007 08:56pm

My personal opinion is that the game is being called tighter too.

I believe that both of these POEs are good for the game.

The UNC/Davidson game was a great example. The stronger and more physical UNC players were made to play basketball with skill and were not allowed to bully the Davidson players under the basket. It turned out to be an excellent contest.

JRutledge Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:17pm

Did Jeff Capel get a T for a coaching box violation?

Peace

M&M Guy Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:21pm

Looks like Jeff Capel of OK got one for complaining outside the box. OK was just whistled for a foul, and they were getting ready to go to a TV TO when the announcers mentioned he got the T. After they came from the TV TO, they were showing the official pointing to spot just on the floor.

Certainly not a call that's been seen over the last several years.

cmckenna Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:11am

I did see Calhoun yell out "What the f*%k was that" after a call against his team last night. It was pretty clear since ESPN had a close up on his face at the time and you could hear it faintly over the audio.

Nothing came of it though...

JRutledge Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:38am

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Originally Posted by cmckenna
I did see Calhoun yell out "What the f*%k was that" after a call against his team last night. It was pretty clear since ESPN had a close up on his face at the time and you could hear it faintly over the audio.

Nothing came of it though...

That does not mean the officials heard him. And the issue of profanity was not really made that big of a deal at all. The commentators said more about it than was said by Hank Nichols at the NCAA Meeting.

Peace

IREFU2 Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:42am

I also agree and that coaches need to concentrate more on coaching than what officials are doing or not doing. We shall see as the season goes on.

Rufus Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:11pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
That does not mean the officials heard him. And the issue of profanity was not really made that big of a deal at all. The commentators said more about it than was said by Hank Nichols at the NCAA Meeting.

Peace

He was actually yelling that at one of his players who had made a bone-headed shot followed by an equally bone-headed foul after a GW player had rebounded his clunker.

I don't necessarily agree with using profanity with players, but that comment was directly at them and not the officials so that's probably why they let it go.

JRutledge Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:27pm

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Originally Posted by Rufus
He was actually yelling that at one of his players who had made a bone-headed shot followed by an equally bone-headed foul after a GW player had rebounded his clunker.

I don't necessarily agree with using profanity with players, but that comment was directly at them and not the officials so that's probably why they let it go.

That might be true but to expect that men are not going to ever use profanity in these kinds of situations is not very realistic. Everyone involved are not children (right or wrong) and the kinds of interaction is not going to be as offensive when you are dealing with everyone that does not live with their Mommy anymore.

Peace

lucky1313 Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:50pm

Wtf
 
So we shouldn't expect people to be more civilizied and use appropriate language?? :confused: Poor language is mearly a sign of a lack of self respect, IMHO.

JRutledge Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:59pm

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Originally Posted by lucky1313
So we shouldn't expect people to be more civilizied and use appropriate language?? :confused: Poor language is mearly a sign of a lack of self respect, IMHO.

This is not a moral issue. This is an issue of reality. If you want to only have people that will never use foul language than only work at Christian or private school. And in my experience the so called-Christian schools that pray before games were the very places that uses more foul language. And if you cannot at least adjust or change your expectations when you work college ball, then you will not be there very long. These games are not an "extension of the classroom."

Peace

Ch1town Fri Nov 16, 2007 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
This is not a moral issue. This is an issue of reality. If you want to only have people that will never use foul language than only work at Christian or private school. And in my experience the so called-Christian schools that pray before games were the very places that uses more foul language. And if you cannot at least adjust or change your expectations when you work college ball, then you will not be there very long. These games are not an "extension of the classroom."

Peace

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinions but JRut that was well said sir!
What the $&#@ is this world coming to... and FTR, I do resprect myself :rolleyes:

Idaho Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:57am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
when you are dealing with everyone that does not live with their Mommy anymore.

Peace

But Kevin Durant lives with his Mommy and he's in the NBA.

JRutledge Sat Nov 17, 2007 01:18am

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Originally Posted by Idaho
But Kevin Durant lives with his Mommy and he's in the NBA.

His Mommy lives with him. There is a difference. ;)

Peace

Adam Sat Nov 17, 2007 03:57pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
His Mommy lives with him. There is a difference. ;)

Peace

I'll bet she's still doing his laundry. No difference, IMO. ;)


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