Re: good point
 

I always tell my partner in the pregame I'm going to " call it if I see it" Sometimes if the play is to close, your view is limited. I want my partner do do the same because if he can see it, everyone else probally did too. [/B][/QUOTE]

This seems to be the logical way to do things!

I think it is not the best way to referee basketball by using the philosophy of "obvious" and "call if I see it". when it comes to calling out of your primary. Maybe sometimes if the game situation calls for it, it is ok to use this philosophy in your secondary. I would prefer the philosophy of "non basketball play" and "I got to get that". I don't think a travel meets this philosophy. I am not alone when i say most calls out of your primary are bad calls. There have been studies concerning calling out of your area. I also believe every official as experienced a partner making a bad call in your area.

Sorry, but I simply don't agree.
Unless it's a "spectator"type situation where EVERYONE in the gym BUT your partner saw it PLUS an advantage was clearly gained AND your partner clearly was not looking at it. If ALL that happens then go ahead. Most times your partner sees it and uses good judgement on whether to blow or not. You must have TRUST in your partners if you want to be a TEAM out there!!!
Pistol

Hey if it werent for us Rooks, the old guys (eh hem...JR) would have no one to make fun of!

Larks - Veteran In Training

Nah,I'm an equal opportunity a$$hole!:DI'll even make fun of myself if I do something dumb.

I agree with Peter Devana, You need to trust your partners. A good official once told me: "I am not going to get any of your money tonight, so I won't make any of your calls. You are not getting any of my money, so don't make any of my calls." I think drinkeii is trying to justify the traveling call. The only friend you have in the gym is your partner(partners).TRUST THEM!

I had an 8th grade girls game yesterday. I was lead and committed the sin of turning my back on a not so fast break. When I turned around I saw 2 girls in a heap on the floor. I had nothing. My partner comes up with a PC foul way outside of her primary coverage area and we go on from there. I am the rookie trainer for our association and my partner was one of my rookies. During the next time out I thanked her for the help on the play and turned it into a teaching moment. I was essentially on cruise control in that game and I got lazy by turning my back on the play. Basically I told her, "don't do what I did". It was kind of embarassing but we both learned from it.

We've all been there....
 

Well, I think we've all been with a newer official time to time and had to kind of "expand our primary" to make sure the game is called correctly. I am in charge of assigning officials for our local subchapter so I always put brand new officials with me to let them relax and instruct as much as I can without sacrificing the integrity of the game. In this case, traveling (as some of you will echo) is MUCH easier to see the further away you are. In my pregames I give my official(s) full leeway in getting a travel in front of me because I tell them I will do it to them if it is blatant enough. This includes and up through NCAA!! I guess it depends...that's how I handle it though. I would've called the travel. THEN talked to him/her about it. That way you aren't sacrificing the integrity of the game for instructional purposes.